Sharing paired devices between Vera1 & Vera2?

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I have two Vera’s on my local LAN and both are on UI4. They are located in two different houses beside each other that are too far apart and neither of the z-wave meshes can see each other. I’m thinking of using my two z-wave outdoor plug outlets to extend the mesh between them. What I want to do and not sure if I can is share devices between Vera 1 and 2. I want to use a scenes button on my 4 scene controller (when ever MCV fixes the bugs in it) to control devices that are paired on both Vera’s. For example Vera1 controls some outside lights on one house and Vera 2 controls the front pot lights on another house. Can I press one scene button and control all lights on both Vera’s? Will both Vera’s be visible in the device list? Is it possible to have a scene button call scenes from both Vera’s via a Luup code?

luup.call_action(“urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HomeAutomationGateway1”,“RunScene”,{ SceneNum=“8” }, 0)

Would Vera1 be HomeAutomationGateway1 or HomeAutomationGateway2?

When the two Vera’s see each other how do they determine which one is the primary controller?

I haven’t tried any of this yet but I’m hoping that I might get some of your ideas prior to linking the mesh between them.

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If they are on the same LAN, there’s a mios docs entry for that.

http://docs2.mios.com/doc.php?page=multiple_mios

Haven’t tested it though.

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Thanks woodsby for pointing me to the document. It turns out to be very simple and there was no need to branch the mesh.
Completed the job remotely in seconds and it even saved me travel time. This just opened up so many new automation possibilities.

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Thanks for confirming it works. Was going to start a thread asking if anyone was doing this.

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I have found one problem with the dual Vera network this week. I have a Wayne Dalton HA07WD desktop remote. When I activate a scene that has devices from both Vera’s only those devices that are on the network that the HA07 is paired with work. So far I have not found a solution to this. I can activate the scene through the UI4 interface and all lights work. Since my Leviton RZCS4 are still not working in UI4 I’m not sure if they are going to experience the same problem.

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JimMac, does the WD activate Vera scenes or does it just activate it’s own scenes comprised of zwave devices on its own network? For example, can you control luup devices on vera using the WD? I’ve never used one of those controllers.

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I did manage to get my Leviton RZCS4 to trigger my dual Vera scene and all light came on. I’m thinking that the Wayne Dalton HA07 is the source of the problem. I’m not sure how Vera interacts with the HA07 when a scene is activated. Some scenes still work even if I unplug both of my Vera’s. Maybe MCV can comment on this?

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JimMac, it sounds like the WD runs only it’s own scenes, not activate the scenes on Vera. You didn’t answer my question though, so I still don’t know for sure. What I’m getting at is if WD is not actually able to activate Vera scenes, you are not going to be able to control devices on a second zwave network from a controller on the first zwave network, or vice versa.
Let me ask a different way - Where did you create the scenes you are trying to activate from your WD - did you create them on the remote itself, or on Vera?

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woodsby

I created the scenes on my Vera2 and let Vera update the WD. My settings are set to give Vera control over the WD so I’m not sure what’s going on. I have many scenes that contain LUUP coding and they run just fine.

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Hmmm… that is strange… so the WD does successfully run luup code in vera scenes… Sounds like vera is associating your WD with any z-wave devices it can, but it’s just not paying attention to the network id of the devices to make sure they are on the same network as the WD… but I’m not sure.
Did you file a bug ticket?

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Not yet, wanted to see if anyone else was playing around with this kind of setup first. I figure that with the Vera 2 replacement offer many people will opt to keep their Vera 1 like I did and use it in a similar way (extending their network reach). I can’t send in a ticket until this weekend when I’m back at my summer home. Best that I press the scene button on the WD then send in my log reports.