Sell and install Vera to client - Reliability Z-wave vs KNX?

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Hi All,

I would to know if somebody of you is selling and installing Vera to clients?

Do you think that is possible to sell it a domotics for alarm,light,heat,scenes,etc?

What do you think is the comparation with KNW in term of reliability? Reliability Z-wave vs KNX?

Thank you for your input
Regards,
Matteo

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Z-wave seems very reliable to me.

But Vera (UI5) is so unreliable and badly designed I’d be ashamed to show it as an eighth grade project, let alone sell it to a customer.

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Also in mi case z-wave is reliable after some time of set up!

I moved to UI5, but I’m to UI4 that much more stable!!

Do you have experience of selling Vera and install it on home?

Regards,
Matteo

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No, not I. But there are people on this forum who have.

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I have started selling z-wave system based on vera to clients
What happened? Is it recommended ?

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Wow, I don’t think Vera is any where near a ‘professional’ system. I’ve been into home automation for almost 2 decades and I couldn’t even imagine offering Vera as a whole system.

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Hi,

Based on your experience you don’t think that zwave And Vera are growing up and they should be ready for house installation?

Also because in existing house I don’t see other wireless technology that can be used for home automation.

What do you think?

Thank you for your feedback
Matteo

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what system is a correct solution then ?? crestron ? control 4 ?

that has fails and limitations too.

I think vera start in DIY market but soon come to be a great and reliable option. has many resources and pros. price is one of that.

The key is vera has a good interface like Fibaro has. MCV do not prioritized the interface, maybe for this vera is not so friendly.

in my house is running solid. the problems I have was with compatibiliy with Leviton products, that’s yet are very hard to work.

When someone says vera is not a solid option I stay sad because if vera is not solid Zwave is not too. and my US$7000 investiment in zwave products and vera will be lost because I put my coins the wrong place ??? I think not !

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Hi,

Based on your experience you don’t think that zwave And Vera are growing up and they should be ready for house installation?

Also because in existing house I don’t see other wireless technology that can be used for home automation.

What do you think?

Thank you for your feedback
Matteo[/quote]

I didn’t say Zwave wasn’t. Just not Vera.
Zwave is, and is getting better every day. I don’t see how Vera will ever be ‘good enough’ for a professional install.

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[quote=“Piwtorak, post:8, topic:169895”]what system is a correct solution then ?? crestron ? control 4 ?

that has fails and limitations too.

I think vera start in DIY market but soon come to be a great and reliable option. has many resources and pros. price is one of that.

The key is vera has a good interface like Fibaro has. MCV do not prioritized the interface, maybe for this vera is not so friendly.

in my house is running solid. the problems I have was with compatibiliy with Leviton products, that’s yet are very hard to work.

When someone says vera is not a solid option I stay sad because if vera is not solid Zwave is not too. and my US$7000 investiment in zwave products and vera will be lost because I put my coins the wrong place ??? I think not ![/quote]

Those are not DIY systems, are very expensive, but are very professional.
Vera has a good interface?? What are you comparing to? I would disagree completely.
Vera and zwave are two different products. Just because I say Vera is not professional, doesn’t mean Zwave isn’t and I can’t even imagine how you came to that conclusion?? Zwave IS solid and will be around for many, many more years because of that. It’s already come a long way from day one.
I’m also not saying you should be sad. If Vera works for you then great! I just bought one for my mothers house because it is cheap ( got a refurb Vera for $100 ), and I can add zwave devices to do anything she would need, obviously she wouldn’t need a professional system, just some lighting and access control. From this I can say for sure that Vera is not professional and probably never will be for several reasons, mainly because it doesn’t appear that MCV wants it to be professional.

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Ok Frunple,

I do not have experience with another systems, maybe I have only said something because vera for me is a good system and zwave technology give me chance to have a system for a honest price.

I think vera’s destiny can be writed for all of us users.

Excuse me for something.

Hugs.

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ok lets compare vera to other z-wave gateways
Honestly, what do you think? I have only tested vera

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Have a look here for some ideas:

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,9615.0.html

  • Garrett
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i think we are heading towards exciting times for automation … Expect many interesting products to come out real soon: Almond+, SmartThings, Vera new lineup, etc.

Automation, internet of things, and the likes is trending in a staggering way, just take a look at Reddit or crowdfunding sites 8)