Hello.
For those of you who replaced your regular door lock (that also has a deadbolt), with the Schlage Link, did you buy both the Schlage Link Leaver Lock and Deadbolt? It seems that a person entering the house would have to enter their code into both just to enter. Seems redundant. Also expensive!
Any thoughts?
This last weekend I replaced a doorknob lock with the Schlage FE599 (lever handle, zwave lock). My door was a non-standard 5.0 inch from center-to-center hole measurement. I have a deadbolt installed, the keyed one. I had to get on my grinding wheel, and carefully grind off a little off the bottom of each side of the door’s deadbolt mounting covers to get the Schlage to fit. I left the deadbolt in the door. I think it does seem a bit redundant to put both Schalges on the same door. Maybe putting the deadbolt on the back door, and the lock on the front, makes more sense… 
I had both for a while, but decided to leave the deadbolt only. I also had a scene programmed where the deadbolt code also unlocked the handle… it took a little time to register, but it eventually unlocked when the code was entered.
In my opinion it just didn’t look good so that is why I cleaned it up with just using the deadbolt.
[quote=“davedecali, post:3, topic:165280”]I had both for a while, but decided to leave the deadbolt only. I also had a scene programmed where the deadbolt code also unlocked the handle… it took a little time to register, but it eventually unlocked when the code was entered.
In my opinion it just didn’t look good so that is why I cleaned it up with just using the deadbolt. [/quote]
This is a good solution. What door handle did you find that matched well with the Schlage Deadbolt?
Does the “lever lock” have the ability to be locked remotely via zwave? Or does it just “open” via zwave? I was disappointed that the deadbolt cannot be locked remotely!
My point in getting the Schlage locks is so that we can go completely keyless every door in the house. kitchen/garage door, kitchen/patio door, front door, etc all will have both the lever and deadbolt.
[quote=“thomasamiller, post:5, topic:165280”]Does the “lever lock” have the ability to be locked remotely via zwave? Or does it just “open” via zwave? I was disappointed that the deadbolt cannot be locked remotely!
My point in getting the Schlage locks is so that we can go completely keyless every door in the house. kitchen/garage door, kitchen/patio door, front door, etc all will have both the lever and deadbolt.[/quote]
The lever lock does lock and unlock remotely (through zwave).
Yeah the lever is a little different than the deadbolt in that the vera will send an unlock command and the handle will be functional until it is locked. The deadbolt will only remain functional (in that it actually is able to move the deadbolt) for about 7 seconds before it reactivates and the knob just spins.
I bought all of the levers and locks through amazon. They also sell a perfect matching handle for the deadbolt and the whole setup look really nice. I can send you a picture if you want.
Great, it was not clear from their site whether it locked or not. Yeah pleas post some pics! I was thinking of writing a program so that the house lights will blink if the deadbolt is unlocked for more than 20 minutes. Then I will know I need to physically lock the deadbolt. The program will automatically lock the latching knob after 20 minutes of being unlocked. Make sense?
Thomas, you might want to look into the talked-about Black and Decker deadbolt that actually throws the bolt electronically. I haven’t looked into that one personally. The Schlage deadbolt doesn’t throw/move the bolt itself. Same for the lever lock, actually, just makes it able to be opened physically. 
Yes at first I was a little disappointed. Maybe someday will try one of the Black and Decker units. I heard though that they wear out batteries really fast. Has anybody tried them?
I actually had a keypad prior to the zwave schlage lock and that thing ate batteries like no one’s business. You put in the code and the bolt would lock and unlock. It was still nice, and I never had to use a key on my door. I still replaced it when vera came into the picture.
I will work on some pictures today.
Here was a picture I took with both lever and deadbolt installed. Since then I have replaced the handle and removed the lever.
Since seeing the Kwikset (Black and Decker) offering at CES in Jan '09, I was convinced that I would have to have the motorized throw on the deadbolt. But after waiting the better part of a year and seeing at CEDIA '09 that they weren’t in a hurry to release it and that they’d be close to $400, I decided to buy the Schlage.
My Vera arrives to day so I can’t really comment on how I like the Schlage’s Z-Wave features, but the keyless part of it is great. This did start me thinking on what I could make work with other automated lock options (some Z-Wave some not), to get the best locking solution for the money.
The standard B&D/Kwikset keypad deadbolt has an auto-lock feature that after 30 seconds it will auto throw the deadbolt to lock. I thought this would be suffcient for back doors and such where I don’t really need to monitor entry/exit, and they are only about $100. With their auto lock feature, I can be sure they are locked and maybe add a Z-Wave door sensor if I need to be sure they are closed too. I could keep the codes private and force occupants to use the front door for monitoring. They also have a Biometric Fingerprint version if you don’t like the keypad, but I don’t know if it has auto-lock too.
I also considered hacking existing locks and/or using electric strikeplates to get the automation we want using relays to trigger the motor or solenoid on the lock, but it seems like what I mentioned above may work best for me. I think Kwikset does have a slightly better looking lock, but the Schlage has grown on me and when coupled with a nice handset it should look good enough (and be affordable and have good battery life, etc).
@davedecall: when you say “replaced the handle and removed the lever” what do you mean? Is it possible to switch out the lever for a different style?
Yeah… i read that too… sorry… i took the entire lever assembly off (keypad and everything). I only left the deadbolt. As you can see from the picture it was a little much, but I wanted to see if putting an unlock code in one would unlock the other and it did.
i basically did a combo on my front door. i got the schlage lock, and a schlage handset/deadbolt combo from the local home improvement store. basically chucked the deadbolt piece from the handset combo, and then installed the schlage deadbolt in the deadbolt spot. not nearly as ugly as i thought it would be. i can take a pick if anyone is interested.
@Shady: I just installed the Schlage with the Vera today - very nice with the pre-installed Schlage handle that was there - replaced a standard Schlage deadbolt without issue.
I like how Vera can tell you if the lock is locked – that is something the Zwave adds that even the door sensor won’t necessarily. Having the Kwikset with the motorized lock is interesting, but in my situation I like having to manually turn the handle.
If I see that the lock is not engaged I also have alarm.com and a GE Concord setup that I can at least arm remotely to scare someone off should all else fail. With the lock and alarm system in place and remotely accessible I think we have things covered pretty well.
@fastlane01: I agree, after living with the Schlage for a few days I think it is just great. How rare is it that you would need to remotely throw the deadbolt, for me very rare. I am usually just checking status of the lock from bed when I hit my All Off scene. Also it seems to me the Schlage would be more secure in that there is only that 7 sec window when you can turn the lock, where the Kwikset would stay unlocked if you accidentally hit the button (which happens quite a bit on the darn iphone/itouches, lol). I really wish either of the lock companies had the foresight to include a door sensor in the lock, but my guess is that it kills the batteries too quickly (and Schlage wins in that department).
I agree that when used with other sensors or alarm systems it is a great solution. Both locks have things that I don’t like about their looks, but my Schlage passed the wife test so that’s all that really matters. If my hands are full, I can punch the code and turn the lock with a single finger which is nice. Now my back doors are another story and I may leave one of those unlocked. This is why I am thinking maybe the non-Z-Wave Kwikset keypad lock is good for the backdoors, I can’t monitor their status using the lock, but maybe with door sensors. And using their auto-lock after 30 sec feature they’ll stay locked without me thinking, but what happens when I prop open the doors for air does the lock throw anyway…I guess there isn’t a perfect solution. I like my Schlage.
Interesting, this doesn’t work for me. I have a scene from which if a code is entered into the deadlock, it will unlock the door lever lock. I also have it vice/versa. Basically, I have scenes setup so it doesn’t matter which lock the code is entered, it should open the other. They don’t work at all though.
Any advice?
Which one is the kwickset handle that works with z-wave?
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