RF ceiling fan control

Guys,

Well I know there have been a few threads on this but I haven’t seen one executed. Lots of talk. This one will most likely be the same. An opportunity to make this easier I believe. With RF controlled fans there is nothing we can do from the pure wall switch method.

What most have talked about was hacking an extra RF remote meant for the ceiling fan and using some relays. I have seen talk about using an arduino which has unlimited potential but high learning curve for most (including me).

So with our remote:

I also thought we could use this wave 3 contact relay:
http://rollertrol.com/store/en/all/180-zwave-relay-controller-blinds-shades-window-openers.html
details around this zwave relay:

So it has only 3 relays and ideally we would want 4.
High, Medium, Low, Off.

I am no engineer but I am sure you could figure out some mapping that could use it but I would be happy with Medium, Low and Off personally.

My only complaint about this setup would be I couldn’t tell if my fan was on.
I thought well the inwall switch does have wires which I THINK can cut off the fan.
Use an in wall energy reporting switch:
https://www.elvessupply.com/Aeon-Labs-DSC18103-US-10A-Smart-Energy-In-_p_758425.html?gclid=CjwKEAiApYGyBRC-g_jIstuduV8SJABCEzhZsHYQgOGpN5cpIk_IFxJb9qHDABHz59saGryNo7Px_RoCTXbw_wcB

Then based on the wattage I would know if its on.

Now this all seems possible but I am limiting myself to basically scenes only smart.
What I mean is there wouldnt be a nice FAN device with all of this making sense.
No nice device on my authomation app.

With all 3 components I could do things like:

  1. During summer turn on fan to medium at night (unless fan is already on high)
  2. If I am away sense if fan is on and turn off (technically I could just turn it off without sensing).
    etc.

Thoughts? Stupid and complex?

Whilst I applaud all ingenuity and people finding ways to make things possible I have to wonder whether in this case it would be simpler and cheaper to change the fan and use a dedicated fan controller.
However, if you are doing it just to prove you can then go for it.

I’ve not seen this relay before. It is a nice find that may prove useful in the future. But, it is rather pricey.

You will not get any reliable means of determining the fans state with your plan. You’ve got nice ideas, but they won’t be reliable and they will significantly increase the cost.

If it were me, I’d remove the RF controller from the fan, or at least set it on High and install one of the Z-Wave fan switches.

GE 12730 Z-Wave Smart Fan Control
or
Leviton VRF01-1LZ Vizia RF + 1.5A Scene Capable Quiet Fan Speed Control

You’d get full Z-Wave control, state awareness, and wall control for a lesser cost and complication. The only thing you’d lose is the fan remote which always gets lost in the couch cushions anyway.

[quote=“Z-Waver, post:3, topic:189599”]I’ve not seen this relay before. It is a nice find that may prove useful in the future. But, it is rather pricey.

You will not get any reliable means of determining the fans state with your plan. You’ve got nice ideas, but they won’t be reliable and they will significantly increase the cost.

If it were me, I’d remove the RF controller from the fan, or at least set it on High and install one of the Z-Wave fan switches.

GE 12730 Z-Wave Smart Fan Control
or
Leviton VRF01-1LZ Vizia RF + 1.5A Scene Capable Quiet Fan Speed Control

You’d get full Z-Wave control, state awareness, and wall control for a lesser cost and complication. The only thing you’d lose is the fan remote which always gets lost in the couch cushions anyway.[/quote]

I need to look if this is possible. I am not sure all the wires exist in a way its possible.
The fan is hooked into a concrete ceiling so I maybe SOL. If I could convert it to normal I would in a heartbeat.
Guess its time to pull apart the switch gangbox and see the wires.

Just to wrap up this thread.

I went with: GE 12730 Z-Wave Smart Fan Control

I didn’t touch the rf controller in the fan. I just set it at high.
Installed the switch and everything just works.

I was so surprised but hey this is great.
Thanks so much for the suggestion Z-waver.

[quote=“joer., post:5, topic:189599”]Just to wrap up this thread.

I went with: GE 12730 Z-Wave Smart Fan Control

I didn’t touch the rf controller in the fan. I just set it at high.
Installed the switch and everything just works.

I was so surprised but hey this is great.
Thanks so much for the suggestion Z-waver.[/quote]

Just to be clear for others… your wall existing wall switch must have been hardwired to your fan? Some of us have RF wall switches as well, so we’d have to run romex up to the fan to get it to work.

[quote=“tomgru, post:6, topic:189599”][quote=“joer., post:5, topic:189599”]Just to wrap up this thread.

I went with: GE 12730 Z-Wave Smart Fan Control

I didn’t touch the rf controller in the fan. I just set it at high.
Installed the switch and everything just works.

I was so surprised but hey this is great.
Thanks so much for the suggestion Z-waver.[/quote]

Just to be clear for others… your wall existing wall switch must have been hardwired to your fan? Some of us have RF wall switches as well, so we’d have to run romex up to the fan to get it to work.[/quote]

Yes the black wire was in the existing rf switch. I guess as a hardline cutoff.