(Rant) Buying thing in Australia... why I can't have nice things...

I can’t believe how expensive all components are in AU.

From amazon (us) you can get 2 x minimotes for $35Usd with free postage. (~$47aud)

Yet from an Australian supplier a can get 1… ONE… for a low low price of $75 aud with a modest $8.90 thrown in for shipping… but that’s ok, it was on sale and I saved $11…!!! So in whole, I get 1, did I mention only one? Of these remotes delivered for a total of $83.90aud ($63.20usd)

Nearly twice the cost for only 1 remote…

F.M.L…

End rant…

Minimotes go on sales in the US at times for $26 a pair with free shipping. (buydig.com)

Unfortunately you are a victim of a small market (with it’s own zwave frequency) and government rules that require manufacturers to submit samples for testing and pay for certification of said samples. In larger markets, the markup to cover this is a far smaller percentage of the cost/price due to the far larger volumes it’s spread over.

But yeah, it does suck…

you forgot about Import duties and GST.

Your 47AUD becomes 59.71 before Customs forwarder charges (88.00) for a 1 kg parcel.

edit: I just checked the Bank Transfer rate and it actually comes to AUD48.88 before ANY further charges.
The AUD is sinking fast.

Life (and prices) would be so simple if it was a simple Manufacture to Retailer transaction without everyone else taking their cut out. Could you also ask the manufacturer’s not to have a 100 or 500 MoQ, then we could Import and sell everything you want at a cheaper price. Did I forget to mention Insurance, Labour costs and freight (in & out), legals, accounting, websites,marketing and so on.

If you compare the pricing to the EU, you will find it pretty much on par, the US would be cheaper as the Importer would be ordering in 1000’s and taking advantage of high quantity pricing.

In any case, I’m not going to try to justify pricing policies as the market will set what it considers to be the “norm”, if you feel it’s to expensive then you can decide if Z-Wave is for you or perhaps you might be better with ZigBee with a 1 frequency world wide. end of my rant.

ZedRally, my point was that this price is end consumer for the US market. Included imports and taxes and websites etc etc…

I don’t believe my rant was targeting the actual supplier here in AU. I don’t think I said anything like they are charging massive markups. My point was just that it is a shame that we don’t get better pricing when in another country something can be delivered for effectively 1/4 of the AU price.

As for too expensive, I’m already over $1000 in with many units in the wall… I can pay for the components, it’s just shit that comparatively, I could by 3 or 4 times as much in the US.

It would be better targeting the manufacturer, rather than the retailer.
The moment you mention Australian Market either the price or MoQ increases, when queried why, I always get the small market response.

Why on earth wasn’t Z-Wave allocated a single frequency world wide I’ll never no, but the pricing headache it created is reflected in manufacturer pricing.

I actually approached Aeotec directly for the doorbell and the hemg2… and you are correct, they want commitment of 1000 units before they will even process an order…

Unfortunately it is seen in everything tech that we import… even iPhones and items that we buy large quantities of are over priced, even though they are made in the same sweatshop factories of other countries.

Find a Door bell (non Zwave) that you like, then use a ZUNO to Z-Wave enable it (Sorry can’t help myself :slight_smile: )

From what I have heard those Energy Meters are dud’s anyway (fry or false report) so you might have saved yourself some money.

I’m still expanding all my lighting circuits to be involved. Did the pool led light and the pool waterfall pump over the weekend, but I plan to get into this arduino stuff using zwave soon.

As for the hem, what about the quibino ZMNHTD2??? If I read correctly in one of your older posts, you were going to stock quibino? I do like the DIN mounting of this unit?

Qubino modules are electrically unsafe, there is a high risk of electrocution when handling the device when under mains power. The devices in their current form Fail a probe test.

Unfortunately, Goap had no intention of making those DIN rail mounted modules for the AU market.

:-\

Apart from a Zuno/arduino setup I found which has a sensor to go over my current smart meter impulse led, are there any proprietary plug and play type options in AU?

Not that I am aware of.

The EM is on the ZUNO project radar, it just needs the right sketch and DIN housing which I think I may have found. (frightened to think of what the price is). I had been thinking of using Current Clips, but you indicate that the Meter LED can be used, in which case the project becomes much simpler.

I’m looking at buying a din mounted meter and pulling it apart. Just do a take off from the led and run it direct to the arduino instead of the light meter?

I think these would be more accurate than the clamps and easier to integrate. Although I found a $50 clamp that delivers 1mv/A??

Din meter
https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/MTLFKW-15110/single-phase-kilowatt-hour-meter-100amp-din-rail-m.html

Clamp

Build from my sensors

Heya doinitsideways.

Have a gander at [url=https://openenergymonitor.org/]https://openenergymonitor.org/[/url]

This is what ive done at home, i feed the data into OpenHab, log to influxdb and graph with Grafana.

I agree that it’s a pain, but the reason for the different frequency is that it’s hard to find a spare band across the entire world that isn’t in use somewhere.
In Australia, the old analogue mobile phone network conflicted with the US ZWave frequency. Sadly, now that Analogue is turned off the problem has gone, but no doubt that frequency has since been sold for some other purpose.