PRI:NO on new delivered Vera2

[quote=“myhomeserver, post:3, topic:168123”]Check the firmware BEFORE you start setup, I got one of these Vera2’s for a client last week and it came with an older version but the BIG ISSUE that the Vera2 was set to PRI:NO

RESET Z-Wave network is the only way to reset this issue, and it’s something you’d want to check and rectify before you use it…[/quote]

I have bee using Vera2 for more that two months now, and I’m quite happy with this box…but I’m also quite concern by the above quote.

I just checked my Vera 2 and here is the actual situation:

Version 2.78 L:1 House/Node Role Suc SIS:YES PRI:NO Last update N/A Last dongle backup 10-APR-2011 9:6

What means “SIS:YES PRI:NO” and what is the effect of these settings ?

[quote=“JOD, post:8, topic:167967”]SIS = Static Id Server. It’s what assigns the Node ID to devices on inclusion.
JOD.[/quote]

Thanks

Hmm, I have to check mine… Where did you find this info? I looked really quick & couldn’t find it.

Ah found it! That’s the good news. Now the bad, this was my results…

Version 2.78 L:1
House/Node
Role Suc SIS:YES PRI:NO <-----------------------------------------------------
Last update N/A
Last dongle backup 1-APR-2011 2:40

Can we please get get an answer on what this means & is it important. I will be VERY ticked if I have to redo my Z-Wave network, I have almost 50 modules & switches!

I just posted in another thread with the same question. I too would love to get an answer to this before I roll out another 20+ devices that are sitting in a box awaiting installation.

[quote=“garrettwp, post:4, topic:167628”]Click on the zwave device icon. What does it say under the “Options Tab” next to the “Role” section? For example mine says:

Role Suc SIS:YES PRI:YES

This means that Vera is the main/primary controller. If is said Suc SIS:YES PRI:No then you can have an issue with being able to include/exclude devices. The only way to fix this is to reset the zwave network. This is a bug in the zwave firmware in which hopefully will be fixed in the future. There was news posted from MCV saying they will be working with Sigma to fix these issues.

@mcvflorin
Seems to be a very complex question. Could you explain what is the impact of not having Vera as primary controler, and if needed how to make Vera the primary controller ?

I am running Vera as a secondary by choice and it will not allow new devices to be added to the system…only the primary can do this. If you are adding devices then you are the primary. When trying to add devices as a secondary you will get error messages telling you Can’t Do! This has been true for me on Firmware’s all the way to .1234 which is where I am at now.
Hope this gives you all a little less concern.
Regards
Tim

Tim, yes and …no ???

First, my Vera 2 shows:

Version 2.78 L:1 House/Node Role Suc SIS:YES PRI:NO Last update N/A Last dongle backup 10-APR-2011 9:6

and I can add devices :o
How come ? …and how do you add your devices ? There is another controller ?

Second I would like to do it “by choice”, but to do that I need to understand the process. Any reading to suggest (or some explanation) ?

Thanks Tim

Huogas,
Yes, I do have another controller…a Leviton Remote which keeps me safe and secure from Firmware updates!
Yes, like you, I always want to know why and understand the process.
Should you be concerned? Of course. Answers seem to come slowly from the Code Generators!
In the mean time I was hoping to give you a little security knowing it is probably nothing…I know how hard it is to start all over on a ZWave network…hang in there and keep asking question, I want to know as well.
By the way…until all the ZWave compatibility issues get resolve like Leviton Scene Controllers, Zone Controllers, GE dimmers, Locks that loose configuration, Etc I personally and going to keep Vera as a Secondary…it has never given me an issue!
Regards
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts

Yes I think we all need to support ourselves because it doesn’t seem to exist much support from the developers. That said I understand that they are probably struggling with the code in a not so friendly environment…

I’m still concerned by a few points:

[ul][li]My Vera is not primary, I have no primary (as long as I know) but I can add devices…[/li]
[li]I’m going to add the GE Home Theater 45608 and based on the docum (http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/GE_Home_Theater_45608) it is supposed to be installed as secondary controller…[/li][/ul]

Any more information will be appreciated.

Thanks

If you are able to transfer your ZWave information to your new GE Remote then you will have confirmation that Vera really is the Primary as I suspect it is, regardless of what the UI is reporting. The information on setting up the GE remote seems very precise…I had fits getting my Leviton Controller to recognize Vera and then transfer it’s ZWave Network over to Vera…a real challenge in patience!
Good luck.
Tim

Anyway, I will keep everyone posted…

If somebody has any other information, please…

Thank you Tim

My Vera is the primary & states NO. It does let me add devices, but seems when I try to add more it’s being more of a pain to add. I’m sending an email to a contact I have at Vera right after this. This is crazy that no one at MCV has addressed this!

Just sent an email. As soon as I get a reply I’ll let everyone know.

Thought I’d just chime in: Mine is SIS:YES PRI:NO too, but I am having no issues adding devices. I do have a GE 45601 which I MIGHT have somehow told to be the PRI as I did have some initial startup anomolies with it, however whenever I change the Vera2 settings I then TRANSFER/RECEIVE on the 45601 to get the new settings to take effect, indicating that the 45601 is the secondary. I don’t know how to tell for sure what the 45601 thinks it is!

Anyway, I think it was this way from the start, but not really sure since I didn’t do a lot of playing with it until more recently.

As others have said, I wouldn’t want to reset everything and start over - let’s hope MCV gives us a good answer…

I interpret SIS:YES and PRI:NO to mean that Vera is an inclusion controller (i.e. a secondary controller and there is a SIS in the network). Nobody seems to purposely have set Vera up that way.

A remote can be primary, but I don’t think it can be a SIS. So the fact that Vera is actually able to include/exclude is rather surprising (assuming of course you don’t have an actual primary controller that is also SIS).

It’s guaranteed that these are being shipped like this, which is crazy that MCV is letting them out the door in this mode. It does seem to work in this mode, but I wanted to avoid any further BS in the future and decided to reset my Vera Z-Wave network and start over…

My Vera2 is arriving in a few days. Is there anything you would recommend to this newbie to avoid this issue? I’d hate to spend too much time setting up my system only to find that I have to reset it.

Thanks!

-David

Not much you can do to avoid it so check it when Vera arrives.
Reset Z-Wave network if you do see PRI:NO
Do a backup before every firmware upgrade and check the status after the upgrade.

JOD.

Thanks JOD. I’m completely new to this, as my Vera2 hasn’t even arrived yet. Will it be fairly obvious how to “check” it and “reset” it if need be?