I have OpenLuup installed on my RPi and VeraBridge. I have a NYCE Hinge sensor on my VeraPlus and it doesn’t show a battery level on the VeraPlus but it does on OpenLuup. Not sure if it changes yet as the sensor is still quite new, but thought it was interesting…
So it’s a Zigbee sensor … Interesting.
Yes, sorry. I meant to specify it was ZigBee. Yesterday I could have swore the battery level value was 96% but it’s showing 100% again. In the variables for the sensor, it shows voltage at 30. Not much help there though…
Are you saying that it’s the native UI7 Vera interface that doesn’t show battery level, or are you running AltUI on the Plus as well as the Pi?
I’d be surprised if AltUI was different, but I can well imagine that UI7 doesn’t quite handle that yet.
PS: I split this off into a separate thread since it wasn’t related to the RaZberry board.
I’m only running alt-ui on the RPI. I haven’t decided to go that route on the Vera as I don’t know what the up sides and down sides might be. I don’t want to lose virtual switches and plug without knowing what my options are. Also, as I’m planning to acquire an Ecobee thermostat… What are the advantages of alt-ui on the Vera? Down sides? Alt-ui on the RPI looks to be a subscription type thing, is it the same on the Vera? I’m open minded and I just want to be able to do as much as I can with minimal programming. I don’t mind figuring out logic and learning a little luup or whatever, but I don’t want to spend 8 hours a day writing code to operate a light. That’s part of why I migrated from Z-way…
Well, really hard to see the down side, actually. I still, very occasionally, use UI5 or UI7 to configure some ZWave parameters, but very rarely (I did today actually, to update a power meter’s pulse count after its batteries ran out.) Otherwise, the only impact is running a plugin, but @amg0 did his utmost to ensure that this put as little strain as possible on Vera.
I don't want to lose virtual switches and plug without knowing what my options are. Also, as I'm planning to acquire an Ecobee thermostat..... What are the advantages of alt-ui on the Vera? Down sides?
Not sure why you’d lose anything? It should look exactly as it does using VeraBridge. No changes to other devices required or necessary.
Alt-ui on the RPI looks to be a subscription type thing, is it the same on the Vera? I'm open minded and I just want to be able to do as much as I can with minimal programming.
It’s the same for both… even to the extent that the same ‘licence’ works on both. It’s not as though you’ll pay twice.
I don't mind figuring out logic and learning a little luup or whatever, but I don't want to spend 8 hours a day writing code to operate a light. That's part of why I migrated from Z-way...
The only coding would be in scenes. The AltUI scene trigger mechanism is much more versatile that Vera’s UPnP-constrained one (where your only option is to use whatever the device file author thought of providing.) If you need a little more sophistication, then add a small amount of Lua or use the blockly editor if you’re into graphical programming. Or use AltUI’s workflows, or, indeed, @vosmont’s RulesEngine… lots of choices.
I really struggle very hard to see why anyone would want to use UI7, or indeed UI5, given the chance to enjoy AltUI. (BTW, I’m not paid anything for this endorsement!.. although I have worked very closely with @amg0 on some openLuup aspects and some of my code is in AltUI, and a fair number of AltUI features have been modified to support openLuup. AltUI, after all, is the only UI choice for openLuup!)
So, alt-ui run on top of the normal ui? All the plug-ins and such still operate as they should on the vera?
yup.
Running AltUI on the VeraPlus, I can’t see any of my virtual switches or my multiswitch in the interface. I could have sworn I used to see them, and I can see them on my OpenLuup installation (when it’s working), but not on the AltUI instance running on the Vera. I can still use them, I just can’t see them… Any ideas???
Not so much of an openLuup problem as an AltUI one? No real ideas on this, sorry.
I figured it out. I cleared the cookies on my browser and it all came back. No idea why they disappeared in the first place. Now I have icons that have disappeared but that’s no big deal… I have my OpenLuup box back up now. It’s been sitting on my desk for a week… Haven’t done anything to it yet, going to wait a bit and see if it’s stable so I can figure out what broke it before. Can’t seem to get RuleEngine installed on it though. Had it before, have gone to the Alt App Store and it said success, but it’s not there… Finicky I guess… Working on migrating things into AltUI so I can unburden the Vera as much as possible somewhere down the road…
Well, that’s good news, on the whole.
For the download from AltAppStore, be sure to use the ALT button, not the Vera one. (ah, just checked and there IS only an ALT one!) openLuup won’t reload if you’re installing a plugin for the first time, it just runs it, but the first thing the RulesEngine does is check that it’s on UI7 and reloads. The browser may need a refresh?
I’ve never had any problem downloading the RulesEngine, in fact, I just tried it on a fresh development system and it loads fine.
Yeah, I don’t understand it either. I loaded it last time with no issues at all. IO have it in the AltUI instance running on the Vera itself, but it won’t install here. I even restarted the Lua engine with no luck… Oh well, it’ll happen sooner or later. I’m still testing to see if it’s going to remain stable…