Okay, going to have some time at the cabin shortly and while its been happy running ui2 1.0.994 for quite some time now, I want to bring it up to latest ui4. Small setup, only possible problem would be schlage deadbolt. Is it as simple as just accepting the offer to upgrade on findvera front page? I have read through the upgrading forum and it seems easy. (I have already upgraded my home one a long time ago with no problems) My main concern is that I don’t have days of time to spend at the place in case upgrade goes bad. Prefer to be prepared in case things don’t go smoothly. At home its not bad if things don’t go smooth.
As long as you do a backup of your current configuration. You should be fine. Giving yourself a backout path if something goes wrong is always a plus.
- Garrett
@Les - were you successful in upgrading your Vera1 UI2 1.0.994 to a UI4 firmware? I made an attempt yesterday and ended up spending about 5 hours trying to get my reliable and stable Vera 1 back to its original condition, which I eventually did along with several hours of help from MCV tech support on the phone.
I’m curious what steps you followed and where you ended up. Did you jump straight from 1.0.994 to 1.1.1062? Did it work?
Ultimately, I want to install and use my Vera2, which I only took out of the box this weekend. But I want to avoid rebuilding my network and everything from scratch. There is a migration path from Vera1 to Vera2, but it requires Vera1 to already be on the latest version of Ui4 supported on that platform, so I’m sort of stuck. I have to get my Vera 1 upgraded in order to move to Vera 2.
Interested in your feedback. Thanks in advance.
your situation made me think… cant you just hook up the new vera and attach it to network and let it be secondary controller so it copies all data over and then turn it into main controller ?
@Sig - Still waiting. Guess I am a bit gun shy from jumping in too soon on previous releases. Got sidetracked on other projects.
@Da_JoJo - I was intending to do the controller swap thing. But it apparently still requires the backup from Vera 1 to be restored to Vera 2 for all of the other data (scenes, etc). Right now, every time I try to restore Vera1 backup onto the Vera2, the Vera2 gets hosed and I need to do a factory reset. So it seems every avenue I attempt creates new problems.
@Les - beware. My attempt to upgrade my Vera1 was a disaster. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Make sure you have a whole day set aside in case you need to restore Vera1 to its 1.0.994 state.
It’s seeming more and more that my only option will be to install Vera2 brand new, factory default and rebuild my network from scratch by excluding/including all my devices and re configuring all my scenes. Not looking forward to that at all.
ah yes it only copies the z-wave network… i forgot this…
the problem is probably that the newer UI version uses upnp devices so restoring a backup which has still the old system wont work. you have no option to rebuild in that case but i believe micasaverde has some converter for it… not sure though … you have to ask support, which are very busy lately.
I don’t have a Vera 1, but I had expected you could at least get your Z-Wave network info transferred?
I would have expected that as well. However, it’s been made clear to me that restoring a backup made on a Vera1 running UI2 CANNOT be restored to a Vera2 running UI4. The migration instructions in the Wiki assume that you’ve already got your Vera1 running a UI4 firmware. This has been my problem - my attempts to upgrade my Vera1 to UI4 have repeatedly failed. I’m going to make one more attempt next week - if that doesn’t work, then I will have to rebuild my entire system from scratch on the Vera2.
Even if I do manage to get my Vera1 upgraded to UI4, I’m also told that all of my scenes will be need to be rebuilt. But I’ve gotten somewhat conflicting information on that subject, so I’m still confused.
I’m going to post another, separate question to the Forum and hope that someone who has direct experience moving from Vera1/UI2 to Vera2/UI4 can give me factual information.
I was thinking through the air as a [tt]controller shift[/tt] to get your Z-wave network transferred.
@oTi@ - Yes, you are correct. According to the Wiki entry about migrating from a Vera1 to Vera2, you can do a controller shift. But this is where I get stuck - a quote from the Wiki entry…
"However this ZWave ‘copy network’ only copies the list of ZWave nodes. Your scenes, device names, etc., are not. "
In order to get your device names, scenes, etc., you need to restore a backup taken from Vera1, and that’s where I’m running into the problem. It’s true that this would still save me the trouble of having to exclude/include all my devices, so I suppose that worth something. But I’ll still have to rebuild all my scenes from scratch.
This may be the route I end up taking. I haven’t decided yet if I want to continue to try and get my Vera1 upgraded to UI4, or just forget that as a lost cause, and do the controller shift and start [semi]clean from a new Vera2.
[quote=“Sig, post:11, topic:169390”]"However this ZWave ‘copy network’ only copies the list of ZWave nodes. Your scenes, device names, etc., are not. "
[…] But I’ll still have to rebuild all my scenes from scratch. [/quote]
Correct; just was looking for a way to not have to rebuild your network. You’ll have to redo your scenes (and device numbers will have changed). For device names, I think the other controller will pick them up, if the nodes support node naming (i.e. I think it reads it back from the node itself).
all in all i think you better off starting from scratch and rebuild it on ui4.
I’m bumping this thread with an update and re-asking an old question, just to make sure…
I ended up scrapping the idea of upgrading my Vera1 and/or migrating to my Vera2, and simply took the Vera2 back to my primary home and have successfully (albeit with a lot of help from MCV tech support) gotten it working on UI5. So far, so good. Now my current plan is to acquire a Vera Lite and either (a) migrate from Vera2 to Vera Lite in my primary home and take the Vera2 down to my weekend home and migrate to it from Vera1 or (b) just take the Vera Lite to my weekend home and migrate to it from Vera1.
I find I’m back at the same place I was before, and as I read through this thread from March, it seems that my only option to migrate off of Vera1 in my weekend home will be to do a controller shift, and then rebuild all my scenes from scratch (and potentially device names) as well as update/modify any LUA code I’ve used since device IDs will have changed.
So, I thought I would post again and ask if, since March, anyone in the community has successfully migrated from a Vera1/UI2 running 1.0.994 to a Vera2/3/Lite running either UI4 or UI5, and if they did it in a less onerous manner than what I’ve described above.
While my philosophy to date has been “leave well enough alone” given the stability/reliability of my Vera1/UI2 installation, being on UI5 now in my primary home is really motivating me to upgrade, not only for consistency but because the new interface really is much nicer and easier to work with in my opinion. I’d prefer to use one interface to control both units and take advantage of the improvements in the new hardware/firmware.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.