northq powermeter - LED Counter.

Has anyone tried this device with vera ?.

http://northq.com/products/zwave/nq92021.html

Looks interesting!
I have sent them a question if it will work with Vera, let’s see what they say!

[quote=“habbe, post:1, topic:169399”]Has anyone tried this device with vera ?.

http://northq.com/products/zwave/nq92021.html[/quote]
It works partially with Vera - one major missing functionality is support for the historical_get in the meter tabel command class - this means you can only get a reading when the device wakes up instead of using the 3 months/15 minutes on-device buffer for getting data even when vera have been offline or haven’t been able to communicate with the NorthQ Power Reader.
I don’t remember if Vera sets the time using the time parameters command class but that is also a requirement for the meter table historical stuff to work.

So is there any webshops in EU that carries this product. And is it possible to just buy the device without the usb dongle ?

I got an answer from them, saying that it is on its way out onto the market, first of all it’ll arrive to the benelux countries under the name “Eminent - Energy Reader”, and that it later on (before Christmas) may be available from komplett.no (I guess also komplett.se etc)

Let’s hope MCV will add the missing functionality soon!

Now available @ www.domotica-shop.com

I have bought it, is there anyone who can help me set it up?

Regards,

Mark.

Hi,

Did you get it to work?

Yes? how

gr Hendrik

[quote=“heinemans, post:8, topic:169399”]Hi,

Did you get it to work?

Yes? how

gr Hendrik[/quote]

Well I think partially… I have an error as mentioned here [url=http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,8930.0.html]http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,8930.0.html[/url] and the reading is not good yet I hope because otherwise I am use a lot of kWh…

Regards,

Mark

Hi,

How did you include the device?

gr Hendrik

Hi,

Just put the vera in inclusion mode en press a button on the power reader 3 times to include it.

Then change variables… I am still messing with the pulse factor… My meter gives 10.000 pulses per kWh, so what does the value need to be : How many pulses*10 per kWh?? At the moment it is incorrect because I am using a lot of kWh :slight_smile:

More info: [url=http://tane.nl/shop/man/en/NOQ/NOQ_9021_in_en.pdf]http://tane.nl/shop/man/en/NOQ/NOQ_9021_in_en.pdf[/url]

Regards,

Mark

Can anybody confirm that this is 100% working with the Vera? Incl. the 15min read out functionality?

And if not, what device is out there that is able to measure pulses in combination with z-wave?

[quote=“Henkes, post:12, topic:169399”]Can anybody confirm that this is 100% working with the Vera? Incl. the 15min read out functionality?

And if not, what device is out there that is able to measure pulses in combination with z-wave?[/quote]
Vera does not support all functionality of the device but you should be able to get 15 minutes measurements from the device. (Keep wakeup interval at 15 minutes)…

It doesn’t help looking for other Z-Wave devices because they will have the exact same problems since it’s missing functionality in Vera and not a problem with the device.

If your meter flashes 10.000 pulses / kWh then you need to set pulse factor configuration to 10.000*10 = 100000

hi

Im trying to get this to work on a mechanical meter. But i can only get a Kwh reading, not watt. On my meter is written 120 rotations pr kwh / 4 pulses rotation. what does that mean?

I would like to use it to monitor a mechanical gas meter, not electricity. Anyone an idea if this will cause a problem? Is it possible to modify the meter plugin so that it displays m^3 rather then kwh in UI4?

I got one of these meters delivered today. There are absolutely no manuals with it and I cant find them either online (You can download some exe file, but I do not have any windows). There is documentation about the z-wave command classes but nothing on how to actually attach the sensor to a meter (There are lots of stickers in the box but I do not know what to use them for). Anyone a suggestion?

It seems to me the reader has to be glued on the meter. What happens when the guys get around to read the meter? Can it be pulled off and then easily be re-attached?

Thanks.

I failed with my attempt for now to attach the power meter to my gas meter. Its just not good for this (optical monitoring of the dials there). However, in the process I found out that my Schlumberger R5 gas meter has an RJ11 port where a switch is used to output ticks. So, this port would be better to count gas meter pulses. A device that attaches to this port can be found here: http://www.saveometer.com/store.aspx (The gas transmitter). However, that is not z-wave. So, either I have to build my own device to get this pulse count to vera or I have to find a z-wave device which can just count pulses. I may try to get a northq powermeter, cut of the optical sensor and try to hook this up to the RJ11 port (I need to figure out how to match this electrically).

So, for now I moved the northq to my electrical meter. The electric meter has an led which flashes 1000 times per KWh. The pulses are picked up with no problem and counting is ok. So this part of the installation was no problem at all. The problem I have is that the northq does not work in the network.

The problem is that the device seems not to be included properly in the network (it initially pairs with vera but it seems not to want take part in the mesh network). For example, the variable “Neighbors” is empty after z-wave network repair. It seems that the process of configuring the node (resulting in “Failed at: Setting user configuration”) kills the neighbour table and it is then empty. At vera I see reports of “no route to host”.

The device can be put in a mode where it is reporting usage every 5s. However, on vera I do not see these messages arriving.

So, there seems some communication problem I need to debug. Has anyone else run into this problem? Maybe with another device? How do I go about debugging and fixing z-wave communication?

Also, whenever I manage to poll the device (which strangely seems to work in some conditions) I get KWh reported but not W (someone reported this as well before).

I am using UI4 with 1.1.1338.

This device is driving me crazy.

It seems the pulse counting is absolutely ok and correct (that is good). However, the device does not want to participate as described in the manual. When I added it first to the network I must have tried to set a configuration value in a way that upset the device. Thereafter vera tried to configure the device every few minutes but was never able to complete this task. At the end I removed the device from the network, reset it (by pushing the inclusion button 7 times) and included it again. After that inclusion it then worked and started reporting kwh reading every 30min (not 15min as described in the manual). However, reporting only started after more then an hour. I then tried to set this frequency to 5min which made the system stop. I now set it to 15min and that seems to work. It seems this device can get upset if you do not pick the right wakeup interval. The device has a button to put it into realtime mode. In theory the device should in this mode report for 15min a report every 5sec. It does not do that at all.

The meter reports kwh and shows that as a for example 8kwh. However, resolution could be better (8.125kwh). I noticed that when monitoring the variable with dataMine you see first a record of 8.125 followed by 8. So at least via monitoring the variable directly one can have better reporting granularity.

Does anyone got this device up and running?

I have a meter with 500 imp/kwh.

I have configured:
1-Pulsefactor (1–655350) to 5000
2-Sensor type (1=pulse 2=mechanical) to 1
9-Pulse count to my current kwh * 500

everything seems ok, but it logs to much kwh, and if I press the button on NQ-9021 once, it seems like vera logs also previous logged kwh.

This is the meter I got: [url=http://www.usolarshop.co.uk/cables-and-components/elster-a1100-generation-meter.htm]http://www.usolarshop.co.uk/cables-and-components/elster-a1100-generation-meter.htm[/url]