MultiWave v31 works as described by Bb98. You must downgrade the Z-Wave firmware to 2.78 before including the PE953 remote. Once the 953 is joined, you can revert the firmware. This has to do with Z-Wave’s Secondary Inclusion Server (SIS) implementation. v32 has apparently broken this. I am hoping to be proven wrong.
MCV can modify your Vera implementation so the temp control works well.
I talked to Intermatic tech support today. Man, are they ever great! Their lead support guy on the PE653 spent about 30 minutes talking me though all the features in 3.2. And it was on his vacation day! He knew everything!
Here is some more detail on the Service Countdown Timer Mode added in V3.2 firmware. It allows you to turn a variable speed pump connected to the PE653RC on or off without access to the remote control Great feature for pool maintenance people. Press the 1 button on the control box (not the remote) for about 5 seconds. If the pumps was on, you just press 1 again and it will turn off. If the pool pump was off, the light will start to blink, then press 1 for 1 hour pump time, 2 for 2 hour pump time, etc. Up to 5 hours run time can be programmed.
Also, he said the new 5043 Valve Controller will be coming out end of this year. It will be controlled by the RS485 port. It will provide 4 valve actuator connections: 2 for pool/spa controls, 1 for water feature, and 1 for solar control. This will free up circuit 4 which had been used for pool/spa control. Also, the unit will add control relay for gas heater. This will free up circuit 5 which was used for heater control. If you use a VSP, you now will have 3 completely free relays on your PE653 to use for other features! (circuit 1 is free since using VSP, circuit 4,5 are free as mentioned above. Circuit 2 can be used for spa blower, circuit 3 for pool cleaner). I am definitely going to buy the 5043 when it comes out.
blueman2,
Great report! The new valve controller sounds perfect plus many of us will appreciate getting some of the precious five relays under user control.
Question: Do you have the new firmware working with Vera? Can you still use the PE953 handheld remote while the PE653 is connected to Vera?
Just did the install with version 3.2, everything mated up OK but with a vfd pump usefulness is very limited.
I did not get the thermostat for the heater to show up. has anyone had it show up with version 3.2?
It just gave me a point that is on when the heater is on but no setpoint
Kevin R
Since the beginning of my time looking at this solution, I was always first drawn to MCV due to the community and willingness of developers to work to mend these tools together. The only Z-Wave controller company that I thought was close to competing was HomeSeer but the price point was also a big factor. Now that HomeSeer has released the HomeTroller Zee, I am wondering if I shouldn’t take a harder look at them and how their interface interprets the Pool Commander/Multiwave. Anyone experience those two together before?
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New Firmware V3.3 is out for the PE653RC. Just put on their website this week. But they have not updated any of their materials yet to show what is included in v3.3 I am hoping for support of the upcoming 5043 valve controller via RS485. This will allow solar control and other functions.
I have sent a note to Intermatic and will post when I hear.
edit: heard back from Intermatic. This is just a bug fix; no new features. Now looking like early next year for the 5043 controller support.
I have never seen any info as to what is available with vera integration. quite disappointing really, maybe there is just not enough vera users that would integrate into their pool control to produce anything useful.
2 phone calls to intermatic came up a bust. zero info as to what their unit is capable of doing with vera. " we are not sure, we have never tried using it with one of those"
Its so frustrating, the potential is huge with a little bit of direction.
If anyone is interested in what we ended up doing for integration with our VS3050 pump let me know and I will go through what we did.
KevinR
Mr. Crewcab,
It is a shame that someone at Intermatic told you they have never tried it. I have a long history of working between Intermatic and MCV. Since the Multiwave first came out, I tried to get Intermatic to understand the value of looking past a controller just for the pool system. They didn’t seem to grasp the big picture. I had sent their engineers a unit (which I let them keep as a gift of good will) and talked them through the setup over the phone. Then I talked with someone at MCV who tested my equipment over the phone and tried to collect data to expose the multiswitch and temp controls. I even met several times face to face with Intermatic engineers, product reps, and sales reps. I really couldn’t get the MCV and Intermatic folks to work directly with each other and I got burned out as a middle man in hopes of getting controls I could resale to customers. The dream has faded and I have moved on content with limited controls that work but are not intuitive.
Used the instructions provided by Bb98 (thank you!!) and got everything connected. However, the thermostat is not working, as expected based on other comments. Called MCV support and they did not know about the issue. They asked me to open a ticket. Not sure why is this issue not better understood…
You’ll have to read back a page on this thread. You can get the MultiWave and Vera to work together with some effort and persistence. Unless you have a solid understanding of Vera, opening a ticket with MCV is the fastest way to get the thermostat working. I am on MCV firmware 31 (3.1) and Vera’s Z-Wave firmware 2.78. Understand, Z-Wave firmware version is different from the Vera’s overall device firmware version.
Unfortunately, you’ve got a lot of time in front of you reading, sitting on your haunches with a small phillips screwdriver and posting a request to MCV.
Hi All,
I’m replacing my pool pump and am thinking of inteliflo. I need a pool pump that can be nicely integrated with Vera. Any advice on pool pump and pool controller.
My current pool pump is single speed and I can control running time based on water temperature, heater, spa, etc through X10 and Vera. The pool pump is dead and I need to change it.
Thank you
get a variable speed for sure. It saves tons of electricity
I’m probably going with variable speed, but which one and how to interface with Vera, as I have my current system nicely integrated with home automation.
[quote=“persimmonx, post:411, topic:165611”]Hi All,
I’m replacing my pool pump and am thinking of inteliflo. I need a pool pump that can be nicely integrated with Vera. Any advice on pool pump and pool controller.
My current pool pump is single speed and I can control running time based on water temperature, heater, spa, etc through X10 and Vera. The pool pump is dead and I need to change it.
Thank you[/quote]
The VS pumps are a no brainer. I saved about $90/M in electricity when I switched.
I have the Intelliflo and am in the process of upgrading my old Aqualink RS to an iAqualink IQ-900RS. The newer Aqualink can run in an Pentair emulation mode to natively control the VS without the Intellicom bridge.
To integrate the Aqualink with Vera, you can use the Autelis systems to connect to the Aqualink from your LAN.
@persimmonx- What type of pool controller do you currently use that works with your Vera?
Is there any other more user friendly pool and pool heater controller available on the market for European z-wave Vera Lite available on the market? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I just ordered the
Pool Control for Jandy/Zodiac
Thanks for the the info. Been looking for something like this.
@bratcliff sorry for late response.
I use Elk 9100 X10 switch, which I bought years ago. I wouldn’t recommend X10 for new systems.
I measure the pool temp using RFXCOM and set the running time accordingly. I also check the pool pump current to make sure it was actually turned on.
[quote=“niharmehta, post:414, topic:165611”][quote=“persimmonx, post:411, topic:165611”]Hi All,
I’m replacing my pool pump and am thinking of inteliflo. I need a pool pump that can be nicely integrated with Vera. Any advice on pool pump and pool controller.
My current pool pump is single speed and I can control running time based on water temperature, heater, spa, etc through X10 and Vera. The pool pump is dead and I need to change it.
Thank you[/quote]
The VS pumps are a no brainer. I saved about $90/M in electricity when I switched.
I have the Intelliflo and am in the process of upgrading my old Aqualink RS to an iAqualink IQ-900RS. The newer Aqualink can run in an Pentair emulation mode to natively control the VS without the Intellicom bridge.
To integrate the Aqualink with Vera, you can use the Autelis systems to connect to the Aqualink from your LAN.[/quote]
This very good solution, but I think for the money I will be investing in a sloar DC Pump. It is still too expensive in US, but I found the whole kit in Spain is around ?1900 http://renovablesdelsur.es/detalle/bombeo-solar/kit-de-bombas-solares/kit-bomba-de-piscina-solar/452/426 There is no filtration during the night, but it could run up to 12 hours a day.
Solar DC pump is the best. I did research for a while but I didn’t find a good solution in US. For some reason, it is very expensive here. I was thinking of ordering from Alibaba. But you never know what you get from China.
If you have more info, I appreciate if you share.
Thanks.
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