[quote=“mcoulter, post:154, topic:165611”]@ aschwalb,
Not sure they would ever include the control for a salt system into this unit. That is typically just a self sustained system (recommend AutoPilot’s Digital Nano System [url=http://www.autopilot.com/nano.html]http://www.autopilot.com/nano.html[/url]). They manage themselves and pretty much just alert you if the cell needs cleaned or if the salt is running low. The only thing you would get be connecting them to a Zwave controller is reported information but nothing to control.[/quote]
I’d like to be able to see and change the Nano’s output percentage. Our pool service jacks them way up.
I am stuck. I’ve downgraded my zwave network to 2.78 and verified it is running 2.78. I can’t get the PE953 to start controlling the PE653 again. The 953 relays and “pool_control” show up as Vera devices, but the 953 controller is useless in its current state.
MultiWave firmware is 31 and is now 31S.
I followed dkeefe’s instructions many times. I reset both the 653 and 953. I paired them per dkeefe’s instructions. I had the Vera next to the units while pairing. Just like everyone else, I couldn’t get the 653 and 953 to pair after getting the 653-Vera paired and the 953-Vera paired.
Finally, I got the 953 to display “SUCCESSFUL” after the final step. When I rebooted the 953, though, it is stuck in LEARN MODE. The LEARN MODE options are now fully populated, but nothing will get it back to its running mode. Options are:
LEARN MODE 31S
RESET CONTROLLER
RESET DEVICE
INCLUDE DEVICE
ADD TO SCENE
REMOVE FROM SCENE
CTRL OPTION 31S
PRIMARY SCREEN SEL
RECV NET ONLY
RECV NET AND CFG
UPGRADE FIRMWARE
SEND NODE INFO
I can now turn on/off the individual devices from VERA. I need the pool remote control to work also, though.
[quote=“Ndemarco, post:183, topic:165611”]I am stuck. I’ve downgraded my zwave network to 2.78 and verified it is running 2.78. I can’t get the PE953 to start controlling the PE653 again. The 953 relays and “pool_control” show up as Vera devices, but the 953 controller is useless in its current state.
MultiWave firmware is 31 and is now 31S.
I followed dkeefe’s instructions many times. I reset both the 653 and 953. I paired them per dkeefe’s instructions. I had the Vera next to the units while pairing. Just like everyone else, I couldn’t get the 653 and 953 to pair after getting the 653-Vera paired and the 953-Vera paired.
Finally, I got the 953 to display “SUCCESSFUL” after the final step. When I rebooted the 953, though, it is stuck in LEARN MODE. The LEARN MODE options are now fully populated, but nothing will get it back to its running mode. Options are:
LEARN MODE 31S
RESET CONTROLLER
RESET DEVICE
INCLUDE DEVICE
ADD TO SCENE
REMOVE FROM SCENE
CTRL OPTION 31S
PRIMARY SCREEN SEL
RECV NET ONLY
RECV NET AND CFG
UPGRADE FIRMWARE
SEND NODE INFO
I can now turn on/off the individual devices from VERA. I need the pool remote control to work also, though.
Nick[/quote]
Is there any down side to reverting to 2.87 and back to 3.2 in order to include the multiwave? How do I tell the version of MultiWave firmware? I bought the USB dongle just in case I new version appears…
I’m not sure if 3.2 is any better. I haven’t had a chance to use 3.2 due to the incompatibility with the multiwave.
to check the multiwave version, hold p/s and enter to get into the setup. in the upper right hand corner of the screen, it will show XXS, where XX is the version (probably 30 or 31).
[quote=“Ndemarco, post:185, topic:165611”]I wasn’t sure if Vera had to be in Z-Wave Include mode during the last step.
I have two more Vera/MultiWave pairs to finish. Now that I know Z-Wave must be 2.87 not 3.2, it should be easier.
What does POOL CONTROL do? What can I do with the SCENE CONTROLLER that appears?
Nick[/quote]
vera shouldn’t have been in include mode for the last step. it is just for the remote and the receiver.
_pool_control is the multiwave receiver. about the only thing you can do right now is check the water temp in the advanced tab. hopefully someday you will be able to set the temp as well.
I received a very nice email from uskiman yesterday. As mcoulter already stated, Intermatic firmly and convincingly believes Intermatic has provided everything necessary for open access to the PE653 & 953. According to Intermatic, MCV must act next to support temperature control and other parameters on the MultiWave system.
They truly are actively working on a new firmware for the 653 system. I asked about Z-Wave 3.2 support last night but have not yet heard back.
It seems MCV does not have interest in pool control. This forum used to have a subforum on pools and irrigation. It was deleted/merged. Others who have communicated with MCV have gotten vibes that pool control isn’t that impoertant to MCV.
[size=14pt]If you want the MultiWave supporte, you’d better let MCV know with a direct email![/size]
BTW, the MW controller could be used for a lot more than pools!
Thanks for submitting your request to mcv about this. I filed a request a while ago asking for better support. I guess we need to keep hounding them.
I do believe that the problem lies with mcv as I had a version of home buddy that allowed me to set the temp that I believe worked, but it disappeared with an update.
As well as setting the water temp, it would also be nice if vera showed the air temp too.
that should be pretty easy to figure out. I have a spare water temp sensor I can measure when I get a chance. I think they even printed the spec in the manual that came with it.
[quote=“Ndemarco, post:191, topic:165611”][size=14pt]If you want the MultiWave supporte, you’d better let MCV know with a direct email![/size]
BTW, the MW controller could be used for a lot more than pools!
Nick[/quote]
Absolutely. The relays can be used for exterior lighting, sprinklers or other things that you want to control.
I second the desire to monitor water temp, adjust water temp setting and monitor ambient/air temp. Where do we write to ask for support? (I know I did it before but it has been a while)
But it might be kindler/gentler to get @mcvflorin’s attention, after confirming with the Vendor, since they’ll likely know if it’s 100% compliant or not.
Oh, I should mention that since MCV upgraded me to 3.20 I can no longer poll the multiwave control. I can only poll the individual switches. That makes it difficult to monitor pool temp using the advanced tab as updates are very irregular.
But it might be kindler/gentler to get @mcvflorin’s attention, after confirming with the Vendor, since they’ll likely know if it’s 100% compliant or not.[/quote]Suggest you PM uskiman and ask directly 1) if Intermatic believes the device is 100% compatible and 2) why the MultiWave doesn’t behave well with Z-Wave 3.2 firmware.
It seems 3.2 and above doesn’t support Secondary Inclusion Server, eliminating Secondary controllers. Based on my admittedly limited knowledge, I could understand that to mean you can’t use the PE953 hand held controller AND Vera to control the PE653 relays.
It seems 3.2 and above doesn’t support Secondary Inclusion Server, eliminating Secondary controllers. Based on my admittedly limited knowledge, I could understand that to mean you can’t use the PE953 hand held controller AND Vera to control the PE653 relays.
Nick[/quote]
But you could if the PE 953 was just a secondary controller right? Like a ge remote.
