Night is a “state” in “Date and Time”…
you can get it by simply using a “Group”…in Trigger as well…there simply is no need to complicate these by creating references etc…they already exist in native form anyway in date/time…no need to recreate it…
Seems that you are used to “complex” way of doing home automation…having difficult time handling all these complexity with “simple” UI like we have here…
I rebooted the controller and now the motion sensor is online again.
The other three Zigbee devices are still offline however, might have to remove and insert again their batteries.
Any how the motion sensor I can see does now trip in the Vera mobile app when I walk in to the porch, however the light is NOT turned ON at all.
The motion sensor after a period of time does then un-trip itself OK in the Vera mobile app.
If I manually press the Play button next to the rule to force run its actions, then the light is turned ON and then OFF again after the 30 seconds delay. So the actions are correct.
So something not right with these triggers / conditions it seems.
EDIT: Just removed the battery and inserted it again on the none related to this rule Centralite Door sensor and now that device is online again. I don’t know why this happens with these Centralite Zigbee devices but its not the first time this has happened.
Building up references makes later logic less complicated. In PLEG I create exported conditions that other PLEGs can read and reference in logic. All the lighting in my house references “Quiet Time”, which is calculated by my Security PLEG based on security system alarm state + motion sensor data - trying to determine if the humans are asleep, while trying to ignore pet motion. During Quiet Time we don’t want lights to automatically come on and wake the humans. Not something easily calculated for each and every lighting device - much easier to calculate in a central location and pass down.
lol…as a programmer i do understand and appreciate the value of “references”
My point was: In this specific example it didn’t add much, if any… it was one extra field…same as pulling the reference…one extra field…
If it took more than one extra field to create the reference…then i would have agreed with you…
I wasn’t questioning that you and your team understand the value of references related to programming! I wanted to reinforce the value of making it so your users can create their own references. So not for users that just want remote control - for users that want real automation without constant human input.
I can’t get this night scene working either. Seems to be a problem with the after sunset condition. Once you add that trigger in nothing works. Hope the devs get this fixed quickly.