@T1000, could you post a picture? :-p
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@T1000, could you post a picture? :-p
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Guess I shouldn’t. But since that sounded like a dare…
Here is the max I can show. Don’t tell anyone, it’s because you asked nicely
Great to see! I have been waiting for something like this to materialize for some time and have considered the relay route as well, but I am hoping that patience will pay off. With regards to the earlier price point options, $50 would be awesome, but my realistic expectation would be in the $100 to $150 range.
cool!
need any beta tester?
Im interested. What happens in the event that there are two baseboard heaters on one switch? Will this device have any issues with that? As for price, its all about ROI. If i can save more than the devices are worth then im sold. Most of my energy goes to heating my kitchen living room areas. Simply scheduling these to go off and on at appropriate times would save quite a bit!
I would be interested. Price point around 125$.
I’m located in New Brunswick, and would love to see a CSA/UL certified line voltage thermostat I can manage remotely. The programmable triacs I have now gave me a pretty quick ROI @ CAD$50/ea on sale, but I’m willing to pay $100 or more for the convenience of being able to tie it all in to a central PC-based home automation solution, or to manage remotely via mobile apps. THANK YOU for putting the time into this!
@T1000 After seeing that picture above, and searching the interwebs for about a year now with no satisfactory solution (using a relay for switching has to many drawbacks IMHO), all I can say is… SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!! ;D
All joking aside, sign me up for 12. At this point in development, price point has most likely been set but I figure this will retail anywhere between 100 and 150.
Any news on release? Pre-order would be great at this point in time! Maybe a crowdfunding campaign?
Just found this thread. I have been looking for something like this for a while. My issue is that all my current rotary thermostats, all 7 of them, are mounted to a single gang box. All the thermostats I’ve found are the wrong orientation to cover the existing box. Now I know with drywall I could patch and make it all work with an Aube relay, but 6 of the 7 thermostats are on wood covered walls…so not real easy to patch and make pretty.
T1000, will your stats cover a single gang box?
@T1000,
This sounds very promising!
I’d be more than willing to participate and assist in any way that I can – especially as a tester. I have two vacation properties in Mont Tremblant that have Z-Wave systems (lights / door locks) and I’ve been looking for a Z-Wave solution for line-voltage heaters. (A silent relay would be very desirable as some thermostats are in bedrooms).
Please contact me anytime if I can help out! (I come from an embedded s/w background, high-tech management career).
Peter.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the long wait is coming to an end… We have launched our Kickstarter campaign for Caleo, our connected line-voltage thermostat and it’s now available for pre-order at [url=https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/casa/caleo-the-line-voltage-smart-thermostat]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/casa/caleo-the-line-voltage-smart-thermostat[/url]
While this conversation started with a Z-Wave enabled device, Caleo runs on Wi-Fi as it was a much more market-friendly protocol. Work is still ongoing with proprietary protocols and we would like to hear from you if you feel the Wi-Fi version doesn’t cut it for you.
In the meantime, enjoy our hard work, the world’s first and only line-voltage smart thermostat !
Looks very nice. What do you mean by developing commercial APIs for Demand-Response softwares? Is the Vera hub part of these?
Yes and no
Vera is not part of the commercial APIs this sentence refers to, but developing plugins for HAN gateways is definitely on the todo list. It was part of our secondary objectives, but if people keep asking for it we’ll move it up on the list !
The “commercial APIs” we refer to are part of the business model and revenue stream we are trying to create : we can’t run this for free forever, but we can’t - and won’t - sell your personal info for revenue. Becoming an asset in a demand-reponse or load-shifting system is how we plan to be successful and keep offering our cloud service for free.
very nice! I have been waiting for something like this for a long time. Thanks to make it happen.
Will there be a non-cloud API, i.e a way to connect directly to the thermostat?
Wonderful new!! I have the same question as spud. Are we gonna be able to control the thermostat directly without the could api? Like by sending requests directly over home wifi network? If yes, then we can just create a plugin and it will be perfect!!
To have connected thermostat is one thing, but to have it control from Vera and setup scene with it is the goal!
If you answer yes, I will buy the 5 thermostats kit right away on kickstarter!!
Oh, and by the way, I live in Laval, that not too far from Bromont!
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[quote=“T1000, post:33, topic:179652”]Becoming an asset in a demand-reponse or load-shifting system is how we plan to be successful and keep offering our cloud service for free.[/quote] I actually think it a good thing provided that utilities like Hydro-Quebec will compensate customers willing to be part of it. Any ideas how it could work?
I think few of us are waiting for the answer, can it be controlled from Vera. If so I will grab one or two for sure.
T1000 please answer to this question.
Thanks
There are two answers to this question : the configuration and provisioning app allows for a custom server location to be specified. One could replace CaSA’s server with his own and given that the server has the proper config, the devices would respond. At this time, this scenario poses a serious encryption and security issue we’re not yet sure how to handle. Everything we do is guided by the need for proper security - not exactly something home automation is famous for - and there are scenarios where exposure reaches an unacceptable level. I can’t comment on Vera’s case specifically as I am not a programmer, but it’s evaluation is on the to do list.
The second answer is the one that should satisfy most users : we plan on developing plugins to have a user’s HAN gateway interact with our servers to send and receive commands. This is a better scenario as it maintains the dual layer encryption between the device and server and it allows the user to leverage much more advanced features, that would possibly be impractical to implement directly on the HAN gateway. This development was identified as a secondary funding objective, but since there has already been a number of request I see that this may get fastforwarded up the list…
Hope this answers the question !
lodup29, you’re seeing right into it
We are already working with a utility company and it’s DR software manufacturer so that Caleo becomes part of their assets. The system is based on a multi-level opt-in scenario by the home owner i.e. you may opt-in for the general DR program for a small compensation but choose to refuse regular events and only accept unscheduled events for example. Keep in mind that this type of control leverages the thermodynamics of a house, so the utility is not saying “it’s gonna be 15 degrees in your house”. They’re saying “hold-off keeping up to 21 degrees for the next 5 minutes” meaning the home owner will likely never even notice a DR event. Caleo displays a special icon during DR events so that it is visible one has happened.
Thanks T1000 for the updates!
I will wait until the last few days of the campaign to decide if I buy or no the 5 thermostats bundle.
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