I replaced a GE Dimmer for one of these this morning… because the GE was buzzing too loud with LED bulbs (both Cree and Philips). Dimming was fine, but was too noisy.
The Leviton was a breeze, and works well.
EDIT. I am NOT seeing instant updates in Vera. In fact, seems slower than GE. Even after a refresh, still not showing correctly. Maybe a setting I don’t know about?
EDIT2: I just realized it had Poll = 0. So I blanked it out to get the default, which after a reload shows 60 seconds.
Also, it DOES allow me to setup an association on the appropriate tab. I just associated to the local load and not another switch though.
So I’m new to this. I was thinking of buying a DZS15-1LZ switch for my bedroom and then installing a VP0SR-1LZ at the other entrance to the bedroom (from the bathroom). There is NOT 3-way wiring, so I’d be bringing power to the VP0SR-1LZ from an outlet beneath it.
Does this mean that I cannot have the VP0SR-1LZ control the DZS15-1LZ and have it ACT like a 3-way light because the associations don’t work with these?
[quote=“jasonkhonlaw, post:22, topic:182187”]So I’m new to this. I was thinking of buying a DZS15-1LZ switch for my bedroom and then installing a VP0SR-1LZ at the other entrance to the bedroom (from the bathroom). There is NOT 3-way wiring, so I’d be bringing power to the VP0SR-1LZ from an outlet beneath it.
Does this mean that I cannot have the VP0SR-1LZ control the DZS15-1LZ and have it ACT like a 3-way light because the associations don’t work with these?
Thanks![/quote]
I’m new to this but I believe that is correct. The remote switch uses the wires of a traveler wire to communicate back to the master switch.
For your setup I think you will need two DZS15-1LZ switches and have the Vera associate the two (or create a scene). Someone more knowledgeable than I can correct me if I’m wrong.
[quote=“RHINESEL”][quote=“jasonkhonlaw, post:22, topic:182187”]So I’m new to this. I was thinking of buying a DZS15-1LZ switch for my bedroom and then installing a VP0SR-1LZ at the other entrance to the bedroom (from the bathroom). There is NOT 3-way wiring, so I’d be bringing power to the VP0SR-1LZ from an outlet beneath it.
Does this mean that I cannot have the VP0SR-1LZ control the DZS15-1LZ and have it ACT like a 3-way light because the associations don’t work with these?
Thanks![/quote]
I’m new to this but I believe that is correct. The remote switch uses the wires of a traveler wire to communicate back to the master switch.
For your setup I think you will need two DZS15-1LZ switches and have the Vera associate the two (or create a scene). Someone more knowledgeable than I can correct me if I’m wrong.[/quote]
RHINESEL is correct. The VP0SR switches are very inexpensive (around $7 US) because they don’t contain any Z-Wave radios, so they cannot communicate wirelessly. Their only method of communication to the master switch is via hard-wired 3-way wiring.
I bought a few of these switches. @asbeck37, I’m confused because these switches DO NOT update my Vera lite immediately. I had to go set a polling time of 30 seconds to get it to update at all. Is there some configuration that has to take place to allow it to update instantly?
I bought a few of these switches. @asbeck37, I’m confused because these switches DO NOT update my Vera lite immediately. I had to go set a polling time of 30 seconds to get it to update at all. Is there some configuration that has to take place to allow it to update instantly?[/quote]
I bought a few of these switches. @asbeck37, I’m confused because these switches DO NOT update my Vera lite immediately. I had to go set a polling time of 30 seconds to get it to update at all. Is there some configuration that has to take place to allow it to update instantly?[/quote]
I found the same.[/quote]
Found the same as which statement? Instant update or update upon polling? I’d hate to loose instant update. I may do a mix of switches if that is the case.
I bought a few of these switches. @asbeck37, I’m confused because these switches DO NOT update my Vera lite immediately. I had to go set a polling time of 30 seconds to get it to update at all. Is there some configuration that has to take place to allow it to update instantly?[/quote]
I found the same.[/quote]
Found the same as which statement? Instant update or update upon polling? I’d hate to loose instant update. I may do a mix of switches if that is the case.[/quote]
I think he meant that he saw the same as I did. I do not see any instant updating, but have to set it to poll the devices every X seconds. Sad, because I was hoping to use these switches as a ‘fake’ 3-way switch in one of my rooms.
On a side note, after buying several of these switches and installing them, I can’t get my hands on any more. All of the Home Depots in the area say they have one in stock online, but they really don’t. Amazon is 5 to 8 months out, and when contacting Home Depot corporate about it, they told me the product is being phased out! Seems strange, I thought these just came out? I hope they’re incorrect as I was hoping to buy quite a few more of these and would like them to be matching switches.
One of the reasons I love these switches so much is that all of my switches/outlets in the house are Light Almond and these come with 3 faceplates of different color. Seems like most of the z-wave devices out there are only available in white.
[quote=“jasonkhonlaw, post:28, topic:182187”]I think he meant that he saw the same as I did. I do not see any instant updating, but have to set it to poll the devices every X seconds. Sad, because I was hoping to use these switches as a ‘fake’ 3-way switch in one of my rooms.
On a side note, after buying several of these switches and installing them, I can’t get my hands on any more. All of the Home Depots in the area say they have one in stock online, but they really don’t. Amazon is 5 to 8 months out, and when contacting Home Depot corporate about it, they told me the product is being phased out! Seems strange, I thought these just came out? I hope they’re incorrect as I was hoping to buy quite a few more of these and would like them to be matching switches.[/quote]
It is interesting to hear that…I have an inside track for Leviton stuff (through my Graybar rep), and when I asked him to get me a price for these items, he said that Leviton’s response to him was, “Sir, these items are only being prototyped at this time. How did you get that part number?”. I told him they were sitting on the shelf at Home Depot…sounds like I better go buy them while I can…
FYI: Response from Leviton. Glad it’s not being phased out. It was actually just released last month. I really like these switches.
Thank you for contacting Leviton. The DZS15 is not currently being phased out, this product line was just released in July. This product line (DZS15, DZMX1, DZR15, DZPD3, and DZPA1) is NOT compatible with the Vizia RF+ line. This line is z-wave compatible, and has the same look as the Vizia RF+ line, but is not compatible.
[quote=“RHINESEL, post:32, topic:182187”]No fan control. Still have to use the overpriced RF+ one.
At least Staples is selling it for “cheap” at $99.00.[/quote]
Question about that if you don’t mind. The ceiling fans in my house have no pull string and have two switches, one for turning the fan ‘on’ and another for turning the fan light ‘on’. I do not know the brand/model of the fans or have any documentation on them at all.
If I bought one of those and replaced the fan ‘on’ switch, could I control the speed of the fan. Is that what they are designed for? Does the fan have to be especially built to use one of those controls?
[quote=“jasonkhonlaw, post:33, topic:182187”][quote=“RHINESEL, post:32, topic:182187”]No fan control. Still have to use the overpriced RF+ one.
At least Staples is selling it for “cheap” at $99.00.[/quote]
Question about that if you don’t mind. The ceiling fans in my house have no pull string and have two switches, one for turning the fan ‘on’ and another for turning the fan light ‘on’. I do not know the brand/model of the fans or have any documentation on them at all.
If I bought one of those and replaced the fan ‘on’ switch, could I control the speed of the fan. Is that what they are designed for? Does the fan have to be especially built to use one of those controls?[/quote]
As far as I understand, yes. The RF+ fan control switch VRF01-1LZ is made to adjust the fan speed. While it looks like a normal dimmer it is made especially for fans. You can not use a normal dimmer on a fan as it will cause damage to the motor.
It’s possible the issues in the openHAB interaction are caused by me, since I had to cobble together a Z-Wave product/device definition for the DZS15-1LZ.
I haven’t yet attached it to Vera’s Z-Wave network, to see how it behaves there, but it’s promising that it’s sending something over that could be used to trigger a request to understand the “current state” of the switch (with the appropriate changes on Vera’s side)
It’s in the “for hacking” pile. It has about the same resources as a Vera Lite, except it has a lot of radios.
I swear when I checked last time the discount only applied with specific Wink products (like their Sprinkler controller) but this time around it was open-season… 8)
[quote=“guessed, post:35, topic:182187”][…]
Loosely, the Switch appears to send the following to the Z-Stick controller:
← ApplicationUpdate (0x49)
[…] but it’s promising that it’s sending something over that could be used to trigger a request to understand the “current state” of the switch (with the appropriate changes on Vera’s side)[/quote]
I think for the traditional Vizia RF+ line, a standalone switch/dimmer will (also) emit a hail. It may be different for devices participating in Z-Wave scenes (as multiple controllers may need to be updated). Both features may not exist / be disabled in the Decora Z-Wave line (although it does say ‘scene capable’)?
So the only thing that is emitted is the node information frame (i.e. the 0x49 in your trace). As a pseudo workaround (for instant status), that could be used as a trigger in a controller (when received ‘unexpectedly’), to request current state. As is done, for instance, for the GE’s. The drawback is presumably that this only works in direct radio range.
@oTi@.
I’m not seeing the HAIL on my Vera-registered Leviton RF+ devices, but you see that Vera has registered itself in Association Group 1 for the Device, and also see those devices sending a [tt]SCENE_ACTUATOR_CONF[/tt] (0x2c) event shortly after the ApplicationUpdate (0x49).
Given the DZS15 switches don’t have the command-class for Associations listed this may be why they’re not going to work with Vera’s Z-Wave layer (as it’s currently impl)
That said, the way I’m doing this is kinda kludgy so there could also be problems in my methodology 8)
As a pseudo workaround (for instant status), that could be used as a trigger in a controller (when received 'unexpectedly'), to request current state. As is done, for instance, for the GE's. The drawback is presumably that this only works in direct radio range.
Yup, that’s what I was thinking. I didn’t realize the GE’s already do that. Range isn’t a problem (for me at least) since I have a large antenna attached, and almost all of my nodes are in direct communication with the Primary.
Still have to use the overpriced RF+ one.