Programming scenes to these has always been a hit or miss situation. It has gotten better with the software updates but I still cannot get them to change from the initial scene they are programmed with in Vera. If scene 1 is programmed to Button 1 and I later want to change scene 2 to button 1, I always get something of a conglomeration of both scenes. It does not seem to fully clear and reprogram the new scene to the button. Does anyone else have a similar problem or is there a way to clear the zone controller before changing the scene? The only success I have had is to remove the controller and readd it to vera but I am getting tired on running up and down the stairs!
I’m having a similar issue with the Leviton VRCS2 devices.
They generate an AUTO_GENERATED event in the scene. Updating or replacing the scene leaves that previous instance of the event in place, deleting the event and Vera re-configures the devices and puts it back.
JOD.
Is this something MCV is looking to fix? These controllers were programable with the ControlThink software so it is possible.
Rather than using the scene tab in the zone/scene controller (which generates the auto events), you could just create the event in the scene yourself.
Very clever way around this. I would like to try this. It asks for scene number. Would button 1 on be 1, Button 1 off be 2, Button 2 on be 3 ect. or something else?
1, 2, 3 and 4 for the corresponding buttons.
A scene is activated for On. A scene is de-activated for Off.
Thank you.
Rather than using the scene tab in the zone/scene controller (which generates the auto events), you could just create the event in the scene yourself.I understand that but the point is, the Leviton scene structure appears to be broken whch is a far simpler method to use than creating the event manually, and if it is broken it either needs to be fixed or removed.
But I dont know if it’s newly broken or if it’s even broken at all. I’ve never used it in Vera before due to setting them up in Think Essentials using the Leviton scene drop down tabs…
JOD.
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Rather than using the scene tab in the zone/scene controller (which generates the auto events), you could just create the event in the scene yourself.
I understand that but the point is, the Leviton scene structure appears to be broken whch is a far simpler method to use than creating the event manually, and if it is broken it either needs to be fixed or removed.[/quote]
Yep, that’s clear. I’m not quite sure why this can be configured in 2 places, but I also prefer the grouping with the controller.
Would be great if that worked flawlessly, as well as the LED behavior. Ideally, I’d like to be able to program the scene/zone controllers with Vera, with either scenes (which could include triggering an event on Vera), or zones (no event on Vera) and the appropriate LED behavior, per button.
Yeah, my scenes have two AUTO-GENERATED events per button.
The other thing that is broken in the latest version is dimming of scenes on these controllers. Aaron told me that it never worked, but he is wrong. They used to dim all my scenes perfectly, now they don’t. Same scenes, same devices.
Are you confirming that something is actually broken? Because I’ve wasted 2 days trying to get them to work so far with no success and havent had them working since 1183.
And you know what I went through with MCV pointing out the remotes stopped working.
JOD.
@CMRancho seemed to have decent results with the latest Beta in relation to the zone/scene controllers, so I loaded .1234 (and Z-Wave 3.20) the other day to take a peek at what’s coming.
I do believe the scene assignment stickiness is an issue. But I’m able to assign a scene by creating an event in its scene tab. And also change it. That’s seems to work, including dimming.
I’m still not happy with the LED behavior.
Regarding the remotes, I noticed that they changed to regular secondary controller mode (‘x2’). Mine previously were in ‘zX’ mode.
I still prefer programming with the remotes (as secondary, Vera primary). Not done evaluating though.
@JOD, is it not working for you at all?
I still prefer programming with the remotes (as secondary, Vera primary). Not done evaluating though. @JOD, is it not working for you at all?When using 3.20 you cant use secondary controllers to program them, you have to switch them to primary first, program the controllers and then switch primary back to Vera is the protocol I thought we had we had to follow now... Is that not the case? There are SO many variables with these Leviton devices!!
If I use the scene controller drop down tab and select a scene I can only get scene 1 to work for On. No scene needed for scene 1 Off, the switch will turn the scene off and also the UI.
If I create a scene and select the controller as the event and use scene numbers, only scene 1 works and only for On, I need to double tap the switch to turn Off. This is true for a ‘scene is activated’ and de-activated and this only works from the switch, the UI will not work.
If I create a scene and select the button as the event and the On / Off button as the trigger, the On and Off works but again only for scene 1 and works from the switch and the UI.
So in my opinion something is broken.
JOD.
My scene and zone controllers are working correctly - except for the dimming. I was wrong about the scenes having two AUTO_GENERATED events. The only one with two of these is a scene that is controlled by two different controllers, so it is working fine. I set up a scene for “lights on” and assign that to a button, but then Vera makes this AUTO_GENERATED scene out of it.
I am still running Vera as a secondary and the Remote Control as a primary. It work perfect for me, LEDs, dimmers, dimmable scenes, etc… Can you think of a reason that this will be a disadvantage or limit the lighting capabilities?
Just curious.
Regards
Tim
Tim,
I know you’ve asked this question before, not sure if you got an answer though…
You know, it’s working for you and I dont have any reasons why running Vera as secondary would be a disadvantage except secondary controllers cant (or are not supposed to) run a heal network., some guys are running Vera in secondary with no primary and dont even know it.
When I get done re-building my system this weekend I may take this route myself…
JOD.
I thought by definition you need a primary, as the primary is the only one assigning NodeID’s and thus always has the entire and latest network information. So with just a secondary you wouldn’t be able to include/exclude (besides the mentioned Heal functionality).
Which is the second reason I’d like to keep Vera primary. She’s always on, in a static location and the smartest of the bunch.
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I still prefer programming with the remotes (as secondary, Vera primary). Not done evaluating though.
@JOD, is it not working for you at all?
When using […] something is broken.[/quote]
@JOD, just to make sure, which exact device is this in reference to? 4-button zone controller, or perhaps your 2-button scene controller? Not that I expect a difference, but I’d like to repeat your tests with the same device if I can (but I do not have the 2-button scene controller).
I thought by definition you need a primary, as the primary is the only one assigning NodeID's and thus always has the entire and latest network information. So with just a secondary you wouldn't be able to include/exclude (besides the repair functionality).The primary (SUC) is the only device that has the entire routing table, but you can have secondary inclusion controllers (SIS) (just not with 3.20) but think about it, If you make a remote control device the primary and then lose the remote, the system would still be functional...
*EDIT. @oTi, The VRCS2 (2 button) I wouldnt expect there to be a difference either…
I’m gong to try my VRCS4 (4 button) tonight.
JOD.
I can say for sure that the remote does not have to be present for the system to operate. The remote assosiates the buttons to the devices and from then on the buttons talk directly to the dimmers IF the signal can reach or through the path the remote has set up. I am not sure if Vera is the more intelligent Master being that it still can’t make the Zone and Scene controllers work correctly! I know that MCV is getting closer though…
Regards
Tim