Is there any benefit for me in Upgrading to UI5??

Hi

I’ve had my Vera 2 a couple of months now and it’s doing what I want it to. My main purpose is heating control and data logging and this is working well. Vera has only crashed once since it’s been in regular use and recovered when power was cycled.

I’ve been watching the UI5 saga and have decided not to update for now, what I have works and I have pretty well got all the programming where I want it so even if UI5 made programming easier there would be no benefit.

My gut feeling is not to go to UI5, leave it on UI4 and leave things that work alone, is there anything that UI5 will give me that is worth the transition from UI4 and all the potential problems??

I use dataMine, the One wire temperature sensor, an Everspring temp sensor, some appliance switches, an Everspring motion sensor, and some Danfoss valves. would UI5 make anything better or just risk breaking things???

Thanks for the thoughts

Nick

I have been sitting on the sidelines too.

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Honesty hold of as the plugins you use do nit work with UI 5 right now.

  • Garrett

[quote=“garrettwp, post:3, topic:170005”]If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Honesty hold of as the plugins you use do nit work with UI 5 right now.

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…and HSM100 sensors, alias ezmotion 3-in-1, don’t work too (wakeup for temperature and light reporting).

For me it had really only one advantage: The Aeon Labs MiniMote now works as a scene controller :stuck_out_tongue:

So how long will us UI5 users have to wait for full functionality? I have only had my Vera3 for a few days, but I am now starting to run into some of these limits. So should I keep on with UI5 or downgrade to UI4?

If it’s going to me months before UI5 catches up it would be worth it to downgrade, but if it were a week or two that wouldn’t be too bad.

Vera3 doesn’t run UI4. You have no choice but to stick with UI5.

Ui4 = stable.
Ui5 = beta with defects.

I have tried U5 and like some new capabilities such as the Minimote; however, downgraded to Ui4 to return to a stable working environment. They are working on fixing UI5 but there is a way to go yet.

If your game you can upgrade but ensure you have a back up before you do and if you downgrade you can do a restore and it doesn’t take that long. My two children disagree.

If it is working as you like, safe bet is not to fix what isn’t broke!

[quote=“Brientim, post:8, topic:170005”]Ui4 = stable.
Ui5 = beta with defects.

If your game you can upgrade but ensure you have a back up before you do and if you downgrade you can do a restore and it doesn’t take that long. My two children disagree.[/quote]

I did that; upgrade and then go back via backup about an hour later. My system was so screwed up that I had to proceed with a factory restore, and that was not painless. I didn’t have enough time to do all of this screwing around in one day so my system was a mess for a couple weeks. I think I lost about 10 hours of my life total to this debacle. Maybe more. if I value my time at $100 an hour I wasted more on this than the cost of upgrading to Homeseer by a fairly large margin.

My suggestion is to avoid UI 5 like the plague or airborne AIDS or some such.

It takes a while getting use to it, and working out little kinks, once you get familiar with it yo will like it. Still Need’s some work, but I am not a programmer to say it should be fixed asap. Backup you system before you do anything. I am loving mine right now.

The only new thing is the ability via the UI to chain delays (multiple) for a scene. For example you can have one scene that does something then x-later does something else then x-later … Thats all I have found so far from a new functionality perspective.

@aschwalb, the delay functionality is in UI4 also. ;D

UI5 just makes it easier / more intuitive / quicker to program them.

JOD.

Thanks for the thoughts folks, I’ve got Vera 2 doing what I want it to on UI4 and don’t plan on making any changes for the foreseeable future.

Nick

I have upgraded and restored back to UI4 twice now and here’s my experience.

UI5 Pluses - My mini motes worked and I was able to add a motion sensor that wasn’t working before

UI5 Neutrals - The UI itself. I don’t love or hate it but I do think MCV would do well to consult a usability specialist for future versions.

UI5 Negatives - Can’t seem to add devices (other than mini motes). Doesn’t seem to like Leviton. Takes FOREVER to do anything. Always seems to be downloading one plug in or another, even if you haven’t made any changes.

Hopefully when it comes out of Beta, MCV will have addressed many of these issues.

MCV would do well to consult a usability specialist for future versions.
You mean a different usability specialist then ;)

IMO, if you want a stable system and all your devices working, you kinda have to stay up to date and go with the FW flow.
Just keep the comments and suggestions coming, the improvements will follow and one day we will have the best controller on the market.

JOD.

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one day we will have the best controller on the market.

JOD.

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You mean Vera is not the best controller on the market now? ;D