I have 2 Aeon 4in1 motion sensors, and i find they have a lot of false triggers. Although i have eliminated the motion trigger on wakeup with some piece of logic from RexBeckett, i still get a lot of false triggers (about 30 in the night, sensor is outside). I want to replace motion sensors i have in the house which are not controllable with zwave motion sensors, but do not want my hallway lights to come on all the time during the night unless someone is actually walking past.
Has anybody got experience with other zwave sensors ? I do not need the temperature or humidity sensors, i only need light and motion
Just out of interest, have you tried one inside?
MIne is sitting inside and hasn’t false triggered, make me wonder out aloud if it might be something environmental triggering the outside ones?
+1 one for @zedrally ‘inside’ comment.
I use a 4in1 indoors (battery power) and it’s rock solid.
Absolutely no false alarms overnight.
Also, with the 1.5.622 update I actually get the other sensors as well as motion!
For outdoor use, I was toying with the concept of this one:
[url=http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-argus-outdoor-motion-detector]http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-argus-outdoor-motion-detector[/url]
but I note that the already eye-watering price has recently gone up and they’re out of stock!
yes i get the false triggers inside too. what have you set your sensitivity too ? mine is about half way
I’ve left mine as it arrived from the factory, hard over to the right (max).
Wouldn’t it be possible to get a higher end motion sensor made for say like a security system, power it and just wire it up to a window sensor, say like an Everspring SM103?
If you can use a hardwired sensor I would highly recommend the combined infrared / microwave detection devices - I have had a few of these sensors armed continually in an alarm system for well over two months with not a single false alarm. Previously I used just infrared (with pulse counting) and they would occasionally false trigger (possibly by wind/solar heating causing rapid changes in air temperature in front of sensor?). I ripped them out and haven’t look back after installing the dual sensors.
any recommendation on any infrared / microwave sensors? I’ve never seen any. I’ll do a search but I would love to hear which brand and model you are using if you know.
Thanks!
I do not not think the Z-Wave motion sensors are any where near the quality of the mid-range Alarm system motion detectors and far far less than the high end alarm system motion sensors.
If you want to depend on motion sensors … I would recommend an alarm system attached to Vera (like DCS) and wireless or wired motion sensors to the alarm system.
and then you would use one of the window/door sensors to make it compatible to zwave / vera ?
A DCS Alarm system (for example, there are others supported by Vera) makes all of the Door/Motion sensors that are connected to it, available to Vera as if they were connected directly to Vera. There are versions with wired and wireless sensors. that talk to the alarm panel.
So you can use these sensors in your home automation.
There are also good Outdoor quality sensors.
You end up with good quality Activity Sensing, Fully functional Alarm system with the option for monitoring (There are low cost options out there), and good home automation.
I do have an alarm system, but no idea what manufacturer, and what alarm panel it is. Do you think it is possible to link that system somehow to vera, most likely by replacing the alarm panel with one which can talk to vera ? If that is possible, which alarm panel should i go for, is there one which is especially good for integration with Vera ?
A little search or visit to:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/board,20.0.html
Will show at least 5 alarms system panels that work with Vera.
Thanks for that, will try to work my way through to find out which panel to go for. Maybe i have a panel which is compatible anyway, unfortunately have no documentation about the alarm, it was in the house when i bought it. Had a look at the alarm box, and its a white box, nothing at all on it… No idea how i can find out what it is. Will post something on here this weekend to try and find an installer in Essex, if i can get someone on here they might know a little about zwave too, rather than getting any alarm installer
The alarms that have integrated with Vera have nothing to do with Z-Wave.
There are Vera plugins that depend on an Appropriate Alarm Panel with appropriate interface hardware.
Without to want create controversy, is because sometimes we newbie or starter in zwave and vera world woud like to read something like this:
“A good alarm central to integrate is: xxxxxx buy this and be ok with vera.”
I dont understand because sometimes the people do not speak like above.
I can not see badness in you to say something is good if you are unsing that and liking.
Things I like and recommend:
App homewave
Sqremote hd app
Sqblaster (but can not find to buy anymore)
Ge switches/dimmers
Recently, 4 in 1 smartsensor from aeon.
Door/window sensor from aeon
Yale door lock with touch screen
Foscam 8198 network camera
Leviton 4 scene conroller vrcz4-m0z
And for sure… Vera3 system.
I think when you say what is tested and aproved you are helping the beginners.
Soon I hope have in my list the alarm system good with vera.
Thanks and hugs for all.
Suppose you just want one quality motion sensor and don’t want to go the alarm system route. Would it be possible to buy a single alarm motion sensor and somehow wire it to a general purpose zwave contact sensor or simple zwave device such as a door or window sensor? How complicated is the interface on a typical alarm motion sensor?
They’re typically simple.
Usually, it’s Dry contact + Volts, but you’d need to look at the specifics of each to see it’s particular needs. For the most part, these are in the spec sheets and/or the manual for the device.
Yes, if the z-wave contact has external inputs than any form c contact can wired to it be it motions, door contact, wieght sensors, the only down side is if it is a powered device then you will have to provide some type of external power supply also I’m not sure how you would go about changing the device type in the Vera UI from door to motion but this setup will work I do this on alarm systems when a high end wireless motion I needed