I'm stuck getting Leviton VRI10-1LZ and VRCZ1 to work together

MAybe its just me, but I don’t know where to even start. I tried making each a parent of each other (not at the same time of course) and when I do that, vera re-adds the device without the parent setting, and there is a ‘ghost’ device still remaining with the parent setting. Basically, no luck.

I tried adding the devices to the same Group ID and that did nothing.

I tried creating a scene for turning the lights on, and turning the lights off. In the scene I made the event as A scene is activated, On, event 1, to turn the main dimmer on. Reverse for off. I can run the scenes manually, but they don’t really trigger with the virtual dimmer. Besides that, this is not an ideal solution even if I get it working because I would have no dimming functions on the virtual dimmer.

The Leviton instructions seem to indicate that these two devices can be bonded somehow. It says to get their special controller remote, OR follow the directions from your brand Z-Wave controller.

Is this something stupidly simple which I somehow missed?

BTW, I had no problems getting my schlage lock to turn on and off the same dimmer using scenes.

Thank you for any help.

@phr0ze,

Welcome (back)!

AFAIK, the VRCZ1 needs special handling, which currently isn’t implemented in Vera.

There are some prior threads on that.

See, I did a search and the two most relevant posts seem to indicate that they have these things working fine. And the lack of details made me believe that its something easy. I’m a long time vera user and I don’t come to post unless I have pulled out all my hair and tried all the searches I can.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,9387.msg62171.html#msg62171
And the post here by Grybird. http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,5716.msg33305.html#msg33305

I’ll settle for just getting it to turn the primary dimmer on and off. Ideas?

Thank you,
John

The VRCZ1 can only be associated with one device.

Unfortunately, I think the problem is when Vera is in charge, that one device will always be Vera. If you have a Leviton programmer, you could reassociate the device to something else, and set up Vera not to reconfigure it.

Maybe you can file a big report and get MCV to change that behavior? They should have a special handling for the VRCZ1.

Actually, IIRC, @grybyrd didn’t get the VRCZ1 to work either.

Just verified with 1.5.346 if anything had changed from a while back. Doesn’t look that way.

So the only way I can think of is to create a scene with:

  • Trigger set to [tt]A scene is activated[/tt]; [tt]Which scene number[/tt] set to 255.
  • On the [tt]Advanced[/tt] tab, select the light you wish to control and select [tt]ToggleState[/tt] as the action.

The light can now be turned on/off with the VRCZ1. No dimming.

I’d like MCV to expand Leviton support in general, but I’ll submit a specific bug/request for the VRCZ1.

after read about I will return this because my VRCZ1 arrived and I can not do works that.
is MCV capable to correct this behavior for VRCZ1 I think leviton products is very good quality and will be good partner with vera3 to make the things runs good. not ?

My 45601 GE hand controller is very pretty easy to use and you goes in scene tab and associate a scene very easy and runnings well…I turn on my TV and receiver with a buttom in 45601 ! I think this behavior would be a standard…
thanks and excuse me if I´m wrong again :slight_smile:

The Leviton zone controller can be manually configured to control the VRI10, but you’ll need to make sure you the “configure automatically” option is “no” in the Vera for the zone controller, otherwise the Vera will continue to try to configure it, thereby mucking it up. Leviton tech support is great, they should be able to walk you through the manual configuration, but it’s a relatively simple process of resetting both devices, putting the zone controller in program mode, and clicking the button on the switch.

Vera does not handle zone controllers well at all - if you can, just set the associations manually and exclude the Vera from the loop for them.

[quote=“Tippin76, post:7, topic:171215”]The Leviton zone controller can be manually configured to control the VRI10, but you’ll need to make sure you the “configure automatically” option is “no” in the Vera for the zone controller, otherwise the Vera will continue to try to configure it, thereby mucking it up. Leviton tech support is great, they should be able to walk you through the manual configuration, but it’s a relatively simple process of resetting both devices, putting the zone controller in program mode, and clicking the button on the switch.

Vera does not handle zone controllers well at all - if you can, just set the associations manually and exclude the Vera from the loop for them.[/quote]I wouldn’t reset the zone controllers. Every time I do, they lose the HomeID and are essentially “self-exclude” themselves from the network.

Also, you are just taking vera out of the loop (like I mentioned in April), not excluding, since that is a specific Z-Wave term.

at this time now I need of my VRCZ1-1LZ is him runs a scene in vera3…nothing more…
is that possible ?
someone got this ?

??? Does this not work anymore?

No time to test this device again…tomorrow maybe…

I solve my problems with Leviton VCRCZ2 yesterday night (that button 2 local loads and 2 scenes)… I will post observation in the topic …

about the VRI I let you know.

I have been struggling with same issue using leviton VRCZ1-1LZ & VR106-1LZ with a new veralite & latest firmware; This includes set-up & multiple experiments with mios tech support.

Sometimes a controller works and sometimes it doesn’t. My scene set-up is the same as described in this thread using scene 255 & toggle state for the controller.

Tech support came up with this including using 255 (don’t know why 255) for all three scenes that I have with 4 controllers- (2 controllers used for the same switch). Is it a problem having all controllers executing the same scene number even though the actual scenes are different?

After set-up should I have set the controllers to not be configured by vera? When I make test changes the nodes get lost for a while.

I simply want hall light control from more than one location (e.g. top & bottom of stairs) where no trailers exist as the switches claim.

I see Piwtorak has something that works but can’t find out what was done. Posting & letting the mios folks know as well would be very helpful.

As I read various threads, there seems to be problems for other basic set-ups besides Leviton controllers. GE wireless controllers & alarm tie-ins are also not straightforward. All leading me to look for a vera alternative but it’s hard to tell if the problem is that zwave is not a well managed standard or Vera is not up to what it claims. If I’m missing something pls let me know. Sadly this thread is a year old and its also weeks after my first effort with tech support.

Jdrinnyc…

I have 2 VRCCZ2 and 1 VRC1LZ…

VRCCZ2…setting up with vera controlling the devices automatically…associated scenes to each button to turn on and off lamps…running fine.
this I only follow the steps listed here in the forum… search: VRCCZ2

VRC1LZ running fine a scene to turn on a lamp and off (but this was setting up for micasaverde support !) I don’t know what they did…

I had on mind buy more scene controllers from leviton, but I will forget this.

[quote=“Piwtorak, post:13, topic:171215”]Jdrinnyc…

I have 2 VRCCZ2 and 1 VRC1LZ…

VRCCZ2…setting up with vera controlling the devices automatically…associated scenes to each button to turn on and off lamps…running fine.
this I only follow the steps listed here in the forum… search: VRCCZ2

VRC1LZ running fine a scene to turn on a lamp and off (but this was setting up for micasaverde support !) I don’t know what they did…

I had on mind buy more scene controllers from leviton, but I will forget this.[/quote]I am not aware of a “VRCCZ2”…do you mean the VRCS2? That is a different controller entirely, and doesn’t have the limitations of the VRCZ1.

VRCS2-MRZ (excuse me)
2 local loads and scene controller…that is running ok… with forum setting up instructions.

the another is only a scene controller with dimming (but dimming do not runs) : VRCZ1-1LZ that’s was setting up for micasaverde support.

I hope now is clear for you.

Purdure Guy: Sorry I mistyped. The controller is VRCZ1-1LZ and the switch that I want it to control that has the load connected to the lights is VR106-1LZ;

Piwtorak, you indicate you got one controller working with forum instructions. I tried everything I could find on the forum. Is it a direct association setting the devices not to configured by vera? That’s the only thing I haven’t tried, hoping to find a Vera solution. I have tried to follow a variety of forum instructions and nothing else has worked.

With respect to your working VRCZ1-1LZ, I tried the support approach but it hasn’t been successful, even letting the guy take over my system. You say you don’t know what they did, but if you could take a moment to check the working controller device settings to let me know how its configured, indicating whether a scene or an association approach, I’d really appreciate it. I had one tech guy tell me to set up an association group one and it didn’t work and another did the scene with the controller with toggle which works very inconsistently.
thanks.

The link of instructions ok for me is:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,13251.msg106403.html#msg106403

Tomorrow I will take print screens of settings of vrcz1-1lz

more Pictures…

I made pictures from the more important screens…Support from micasaverde made settings in scenes.

For the VRCZ1, my findings have been that you can only do the ‘toggle’, as described earlier on this thread. The VRCZ1 can only be associated with a single device, i.e. Vera, as it stands.

I’ll have to test it again, but I don’t think it was inconsistent. Did you allow some time between ‘toggles’?

To get full functionality from a VRCZ1, you’d have to use the Leviton programmer, unfortunately.

Thanks to everyone who responded especially piwtorak for making the effort to copy his screens although the same solution didn’t work consistently for me, piecing together all the suggested options I finally have consistent switch operation (leviton vr106-1LZ) from all four of my VRCZ1 controllers (VRCZ1-1LZ).

For others who are having trouble with this controller here is what worked for me: First re-set, excluded and then included per forum instructions:

http://faq.mios.com/content/1/18/en/how-to-include-a-leviton-scene-controller.html?highlight=unit_name

Note I used the battery based inclusion option and found the time to get a response varied from the instructions and often I had to move the veralite around & very close to get the desired flicker response.

The four controller scenes I created all used the trigger description “press a button” to activate a scene, which is numbered “255” (still don’t know why this number is used)

After setting trigger, selected “advanced” tab and here per OTi@, I finally made a change from what tech support suggested that worked. For “pick a device” I simply selected the device I wanted to control (e.g. 2nd fl hall light switch) and without creating any delays I used the drop down list under “add” to choose “toggle state”.

That’s it. no scene on/off commands. I’m not concerned with using the controller for dimming purposes, but am happily using two different controllers (top of stairs, end of hall) to control the same light switch. Two other controllers use the same set-up to control two other switches.

Toggling without specifying on or off, I assume, removes the requirement for having a controller knowing or being updated about the current state of the light. One push can turn on the light (e.g. going downstairs) and seconds later, the other controller can then turn it off. Later, walking in the reverse direction, a single press of each controller worked as well. Tech support told me this would not be possible if I didn’t wait a minute in between button presses, happily that is not required.

Given the simplicity of the solution it’s curious to me that tech support suggested two different ineffective approaches and over a month never got back to me with a solution that worked. I’ll pass this along to them. It would be nice if they continually confirmed and re-organized solutions according to device & date of implementaton. Thanks again to forum respondents.