Hello, we have a Vera controlled device to turn on or off storage heaters at a works building that I only used for training sessions mon-thur so I would like to setup a schedule that turns on the heating on Sunday and turns it off on Thursday.
But for the life of me I cannot figure this complicated thing out, neither does the help or anywhere else show a simple schedule setup - youtube has a vid but includes sensors etc.
We have none of that, just an interface connected to via the web or the phone app.
So is there a guide that explains how I setup the heating to come on - on a Sunday evening and turn off on a Thursday morning that can be turned on by me accessing the app.
It’s not an every week thing, only as required.
It’s got no sensors, only a “upstairs heating” device to turn on the upstairs electric storage heating.
Hello, I don’t mention them because I do not have them.
We only have a relay that turns on or off electric storage heaters - these do not use a thermostat.
Thanks for the links but they too involve using sensors etc. So there are no triggers, all we want is a simple timed scene that turns on the heating on a Sunday and turns it off on a Thursday morning. They also do not show the same pages that I see at https://fwd8.mios.com/remote/1.5.622-en …
And the security questions on this site are ridiculous!
Matty, this is what I would do to keep is simple.
Add the Virtual Switch plug-in to your Vera and create a device called “Run Heat Schedule” Or something similar.
Create a Scene that turns on the Storage heater on the time on Sunday you want.
Create a Scene that turns off the Storage heater on the time on Thursday you want.
Add LUA code to the On Scene that check if the Virtual Switch is on, if it is then the scene will run on Sunday at the time you want.
Depending on if you want to manually arm this every week, you can have the off scene above also turn off the Virtual Switch (bascially resetting the schedule so that you have to turn the Virtual Switch back on for next week. Or you need to remember to manually check the status of the Virtual Switch each week to deside if you want the schedule to run or not.
The LUA code you need for the On Scene is here:
local dID = 141 – Device ID of your VirtualSwitch
local allow = true – true runs scene if virtual switch is on, false blocks it
return ((status == “1”) == allow)
To be fancy you could create one more scene that is triggered based on the Virtual Switch being turned on, with some LUA code to check if you are currently between Sunday and Thursday, and you want the heat to come on immediately. Otherwise you just need to remember that if you are trying to turn on the heat immediately and it is after the Sunday schedule point, you need to also turn on the heat directly.
See more conditional Scene code here: http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=18679.0
Because Vera does not allow you to create “AND” rules you have to use the Conditional LUA code, or use PLEG to make this work.
[quote=“Mattylad, post:3, topic:189819”]Hello, I don’t mention them because I do not have them.
We only have a relay that turns on or off electric storage heaters - these do not use a thermostat.
Thanks for the links but they too involve using sensors etc. So there are no triggers, all we want is a simple timed scene that turns on the heating on a Sunday and turns it off on a Thursday morning. They also do not show the same pages that I see at https://fwd8.mios.com/remote/1.5.622-en …
And the security questions on this site are ridiculous![/quote]What are storage heaters?
As I stated previously, after you have your device(relay) setup and working, you need to create an On scene that is “triggered” by a schedule and an Off scene that is triggered by another schedule.
I don’t know what you are referring to by “electric storage heaters” but it sounds extraordinarily and unacceptably dangerous to be turning on unattended heaters that are not thermostatically controlled. But, perhaps I am misunderstanding your use case.
A storage heater is a big metal box full of bricks which is heated up during hours when electricity is cheaper and gives off that heat during hours when electricity is more expensive.
Normally the supply to them comes off a timer so they are only heating at the correct time. It is possible to just turn them on and leave them on but in this case you do not get the savings.
If this case uses timed supply, I wonder where he intends to mount the z-wave relay. On the supply to the timer the timer may not work correctly. On the timed side the z-wave relay will not have supply at times and may not turn on/off.
I guess the z-wave relay should be pre timer but operate a contactor on the timed side.
Storage heaters are not common nowadays. We used to have ‘economy seven’ electricity which was cheaper overnight when it was not being used so much. Recent changes mean that those types of supply are rare nowadays and storage heaters are too costly to run.
The other problem was that you had to decide in advance that you wanted heat and then once heated up they give out the heat whether you want it or not.
Overall, a horrible outdated system.
Cheers for the replies but I find it just as hard to understand this software as it is to figure out how to reply on this forum.
Yes it’s storage heaters - they are already wired up and working and I just wanted to be able to connect and turn them on to go off on Thursday but it appears to not be as simple as that so I’m giving up and just leaving it that I sign on and turn on then sign in and turn off.
Cheers all.
Now I have to read an almost impossible to read captcha (devils spawn image) and do some googling to post this.
