Hi,
I’ve got several devices setup with Vera.
My 2 Qees Power switches/power meters work perfectly, when going online on findvera.com I can see the actual Watts consumption of each module (with maybe just 1 min delay).
But, I also have wall modules from Düwi. They work fine, but they don’t have an actual power meter in them > in the device’s settings, and in the field “energy usage”, I have entered the number of watts (e.g. 2 watt for my düwi module connected to two deco Led bulbs).
But that doesn’t seem to work: when I go online on findvera, while the Düwi module turned on (as confirmed in the Vera interface), I don’t see any Düwi switch-related Watts.
mikeholczer, you’re right. the Energy Monitor plugin does this calculations. Just install and forget, no configuration needed (apart from setting the watts field on non-metering devices).
it does work, but needs a couple of tuneups due to the still-evolving server infrastructure. please wait a few days more.
OK, really stupid question I guess but how do I find the right plug-ins? For instance the Wiki on energy usage (http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Energy_Usage_Tech_Info) says use the Climate Plugin device, but I don’t see a plugin listed by that name.
There are several with “energy” or “power meter” in the name, but …
I’ve got it working, make sure some devices (without actual power meter) are given a kwh consumption in Vera, then install the Energy Monitor plugin.
Now on Findvera.com I can see everything: my Qees Power (with actual power) and my other devices (with theoretical power) when they are on.
Micasaverde has a lot going on, but I’ve got three remarks:
[ul][li]This should be a standard feature (as long as there are “consumption” fields in the devices windows, the end user doesn’t expect to have to add any plugin…)[/li]
[li]It is strange that graphs are only available online (and not on the local connection). I guess the Vera Box can’t compute excel-like graphs…but maybe tables would be a good compromise[/li]
[li]I don’t see any cost estimate report anywhere…while there is a price per kWh in the Energy plugin. In the future, better cost reporting would be great. The caveat to that is that the single field present here does not apply to most of Europe: most people here have “bi-hourly counter”; basically energy at night and week-ends is cheaper than energy during weekdays. Problem is: exact hours and some exception (bank holidays…) vary by country and even cities[/li][/ul]
Anyway, the basics are working for me now at least, thanks!
Good points mentioned there and be sure we will take them into account. The Energy functions on Vera suffered a lot of changes and, we hope, improvements. On the UI4 and new servers structure, this part will be handled a little bit different and will be enhanced. Javier is working on this and I’m sure he’ll fulfill almost all of your requests, which are normal and with common sense.
I’ve never been able to get energy monitoring to work on my Vera on UI2, or UI4 which I am on now. I’ve installed the energy monitor plugin from the MIOS marketplace and set up the Watts field correctly on several devices, but the plugin never seems to capture any data and no graphs are created on mios.com.
At this point I’m wondering/suspecting if I’ve got a conflict in LUUP code going on there since in addition to the MIOS marketplace plugin, there are also several LUUP files in the “Current Files” section of the LUUP files section (part of what is now called MIOS Developers tab at the top of the UI4 dashboard) called things like:
I can’t remember if I installed these files back in the UI2 days, or if they were always there to be honest.
The main reason I suspect some sort of a double plugin or conflict situation is that SOME (but not all) of my devices actually have two Watts fields under their advanced configuration tabs. Even after removing the MIOS marketplace plugin, I still have multiple watts fields on these devices. Entering information in either or both of the fields still yields no usable energy monitoring data though.
As mentioned, I’ve tried removing and re-adding the MIOS marketplace plugin, but no success. I stopped short of going in and removing the luup files.
I’d really like to use the energy monitoring for both real (with reporting devices) and estimated (with the watts count), so any advice/suggestions you can provide would be much appreciated.
The energy monitor function only worked on the very 1st FW release of Vera 1 UI2. So, forget about that.
UI4 does work.
1st you will need the Energy Monitor Plugin from the Mios Marketplace.
2nd you will need to add the watt values to your devices. Unless they are the self metering type.
Click on the wrench for the device, go to Settings, plug a watt value in the box for Energy used.
There is another Plugin called Energy Alerts and Profiling, this will allow you to run scenes based on the lights, thermostats or energy used.
I’ve done all that you have recommended (installed the plugin, configured the Watts fields), but to no avail.
It’s odd that even after removing the plugin I still have multiple watts fields as I mentioned in the devices. I think I’ll go ahead and try manually removing the LUUP files and then re-installing the plugin as no combination of adding/removing the plugin alone seems to have done the trick.
I’m sure someone has encountered the same situation I’m in though.
Yeah there are 3 wattage fields. You only need to enter it for the one on the settings tab. Under the advanced tab User Supplied will fill in automatically when you add to the setting tab. The other field displays the current state, so if the device is off will display 0.
I’m trying to remember if after I added the plugin and filled in the values if there was some delay before I started seeing the watts displayed. I’m 75% positive there was a delay.
Ah hah! Sorry for missing that. I think I had read somewhere back in UI2 land that the only place you fill in this field explicitly called Watts is under the Advanced tab.
Under my Settings tabs, I don’t see a field called Watts, but I do have “Energy used (explain this)”. My mind was stuck on looking for the wrong thing it seems. I’ll give this a shot. Thank you for your help!