how to assign manual route

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Hi all,

for better understanding here is my house plan with the z-wave devices location. the total distance from end to end are no more then 15meters.

  1. i want to able to use TZ66D from Room1, to do association to turn on and off the “Fibaro switch 1 and 2”, “Everspring On/Off 1”, and “Homepro On/off”, with total of 4 association.

  2. so my problem now is i only able to turn on and off “Fibaro switch 1” and “Eversping On/Off 1” only.

  3. i tried to move those not functioning devices nearer, and it works fine. so this is definitely the signaling issue. believe to due to the concrete wall.

  4. so now i have several questions:
    i) each devices have its own z-wave route recorded themself? example, TZ66D will know the route to “Fibaro switch 1”, then “everspring On/Off 1” then only reach “Fibaro Switch 2” and “Homepro On/Off” without the Vera required?
    ii) if above yes, is this automatic or manually? how to do if manual?
    iii) i saw in Mios, that there is Manual Z-Wave route (advanced) under device options. not sure this is the one? i click on the help but nothing shows, any one have idea how to set this
    iv) any possible solution to solve the problem i have???

please, i am total dilemma on this already. thanks

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Not sure, but I believe that with true controllers (i.e. those devices that show as controllers) the routes to associated devices are created by the controller itself and cannot be manipulated externally. With non-controller devices that support associations, I’m assuming the routes get programmed by Vera, but I’m not aware of a way to see or manipulate them.

The manual route option in Vera is to manipulate routes from Vera to other devices.

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Just trying to make sure I have a handle on this too. Since I can’t find one message that deals with everything, I wanted to put it all together here:

I have a rather large network and all the nodes work nicely except one - the front door lock (#17) which is in the middle of the nodes geographically. There are lamp module nodes on three sides of node 17, the front door, are fine. One is 10 feet from it down the hall, 8 feet above it (upstairs), and about 15 feet from it (across the room), and about 20 feet from it across the room. The ones across the room are unobstructed.

Neighbor node list (selected nodes), this shows the neighbors listed for the node:
Node 17-front door lock: 1,4,5,10,13,14,16
Node 10-Garage door lock: 1,4,17
Node 12-lamp down hall: 1,4
Node 7: upstairs lamp: 1,4,6
Node 4: 1,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,13,14,15,16,17

  1. For the manual routes, I wanted to try using node 4 and node 10 since they are neighbors and it is not working automatically (and yes I’ve tried repairing multiple times over the last 8 weeks, moving lamp modules around etc).
    The wiki says: “ManualRoute and the value is a dot separated list of Z-Wave node ID’s, just like the AutoRoute variable” but does not give an example.
    It looks like the list does not include the Vera (node 1). Likewise it does not include the terminal node you are trying to reach.
    So to go from the Vera 3 (node 1) to the front door lock (node 17) one would list something like:

4,5.10,7.13

This would be three different possible routes. One using node 4, one using 5<->10, and one using 7<->13. Correct?

  1. Node 17 says it is a neighbor to 1 also. Ideally it would go there directly.

  2. Can there be three hop lists?
    4.5.10?

  3. “undefined” (no quotes) is the default value

Updating neighbors says: “Node 17 0 good routes out of 0 failed at: Getting secure” (I presume “Getting secure classes”).

Any thoughts and thanks!

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You really should have started your own new thread.

Very Important: There is a Z-Wave feature called “Beaming” that must be present in the intermediate node in order for it to route encrypted packets, such as those used by locks. Check your devices and make sure that they support beaming before trying to force routes through them.

  1. Yes, that is correct. I am unsure but I believe that it likes a trailing comma at the end of the route list. The GUI will not want to properly save the routes if that is incorrect.

  2. Yes. But, you can’t trust the neighbor list, especially from battery operated devices. Does node 17, your lock, have a clear line of sight to the Vera? If there are any obstructions or the distance is too great then, No.

  3. Yes, there can be a three hop route. Unfortunately, increased hop counts result in increased delays and the delay can be extreme with some devices.

  4. Yes. It shows “undefined” if a manual route has never been set. If one has been set and then removed the field is blank.

You describe a device 20 feet unobstructed from the lock, this sounds like a good routing hop. But despite providing a lot of good information, you never provided the routes that Vera(Z-Wave) had determined automatically.

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[quote=“Halloween, post:3, topic:171981”]4,5.10,7.13

This would be three different possible routes. One using node 4, one using 5<->10, and one using 7<->13. Correct?[/quote]
IIRC, Vera will only use the first user provided route.