GE Instant On

Other Devices & Integrations Lighting & Load Control
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Hi,

I have a couple GE dimmers that, when receive a Z-Wave “On” command, will instantly turn on to 100. I have other GE models that will dim up. I’d rather them dim up. The ones that dim up and the ones that come on instantly have minor cosmetic differences (the ones that come on instantly have larger blue indicator lights on them).

How can I make them all dim up when receiving a Z-Wave command?

Thanks.

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[quote=“jemboogie, post:1, topic:187292”]Hi,

I have a couple GE dimmers that, when receive a Z-Wave “On” command, will instantly turn on to 100. I have other GE models that will dim up. I’d rather them dim up. The ones that dim up and the ones that come on instantly have minor cosmetic differences (the ones that come on instantly have larger blue indicator lights on them).

How can I make them all dim up when receiving a Z-Wave command?

Thanks.[/quote]

Search the forum or read the instructions.

you need to go into the advanced tab on the device and add a perimeter.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=29746.0
or
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,4383.0.html

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Yes, I have set my preferences from within UI5. I wanted a medium speed dim, so I set the parameters as follows:

Parameters 7,9,11: 2
Parameters 8,10,12: 5

This gives me a nice dim when I press the rocker or when it receives a z-wave “Off” command. But, when it receives an “On” command from my Vera, it turns instantly on. How do I fix this?

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[quote=“jemboogie, post:3, topic:187292”]Yes, I have set my preferences from within UI5. I wanted a medium speed dim, so I set the parameters as follows:

Parameters 7,9,11: 2
Parameters 8,10,12: 5

This gives me a nice dim when I press the rocker or when it receives a z-wave “Off” command. But, when it receives an “On” command from my Vera, it turns instantly on. How do I fix this?[/quote]

I don’t have the manual but the 2 and 5 ar only for local. you need to set the same parameters for z-wave command also. I thought it was like 9 and 10, but need to see the manual to check for sure.

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Yes, parameter 7 and 8 (for z wave commands according to the manual) are set to 2 and 5, respectively. But, they are still turning on instantly when receiving a z wave “on” command.

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I posted directions in a thread along time ago also explaining the stepping. Can’t srrm to fibd that now. You need to also have a high number of steps too. Can you post a pic of the directions or copy snd paste maybe.

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Found it.

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,31070.msg223670.html#msg223670

I think you have the step count set so low that it takes 2 steps to turn it on and off.

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Attached is a picture of my current settings.

When the switch is turned on or off by pressing the rocker, it dims like I’ve set it to. When it receives a z-wave “Off” command, it also dims like it is supposed to.

Here is the problem: When my vera sends a z-wave “On” command, it turns instantly on. That is what I what I want to fix. I would like it to dim like I’ve set it to when receiving an “On” command.

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I think I’ve seen something like this before. Unless @Integlikewhoa offers additional parameter setting corrections, try setting the dim level to 99% in your scene, rather than an On command.

If I remember correctly, there was some issue with the way the switch honors an On(100% dim level) command versus a lower percent dim level.

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[quote=“Z-Waver, post:9, topic:187292”]I think I’ve seen something like this before. Unless @Integlikewhoa offers additional parameter setting corrections, try setting the dim level to 99% in your scene, rather than an On command.

If I remember correctly, there was some issue with the way the switch honors an On(100% dim level) command versus a lower percent dim level.[/quote]

I think its the number of steps or step count. I just don’t have the manual (and to lazy to search) to know which valus is the step count. But the step count needs to be something like 100-150 to get back to default. I think he changed the wrong value now to a low number and now there is a short amount or only a few steps between 0 and 100% dim. When you remove all the steps it obviously ramps fast even if you have the ramp rate set slow.

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I have the manual in front of me… Default is 7 set to 1 and 8 set to 3.

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Ok I just took some time to read the last thread I posted the link too. In there has the information you need. Here is what I found.

1. When Receiving a Z-Wave Dim Command ? Parameter 7 (number of steps or levels) ? Parameter 8 (timing of the steps) ? Length: 1 Byte ? Valid Values: Parameter 7 (default = 1) Valid Values: 1-99 Parameter 8 (default = 3) Valid Values: 1-255 '1 byte dec', not '1 byte hex'
  1. Manual Control Dimming (pressing the Dimmer?s rocker)
    ? Parameter 9 (number of steps or levels)
    ? Parameter 10 (timing of the steps)
    ? Length: 1 Byte
    ? Valid Values:
    Parameter 9 (default = 1) Valid Values: 1-99
    Parameter 10 (default = 3) Valid Values: 1-255

so #7 is the number of steps via z-wave command. (please read what steps are if you don’t know I already explained it in that thread) You have it set to 4 out of 99. That is a very low amount and would result in a faster ramp speed. So actually 0%, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%. You timing is set slow so I’m guessing you would still notice the fade. I think what I wrote my be backwards, but unsure.

If you notice 0 fade you might first try to set #7 to like 99 and test. If you still see no fade, I apologize and you try what Z-waver has suggested. I do think I remember that issue (as he has stated) and I’m starting to change my mind.

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Yea I saw that, so I’m thinking z-waver is right. Again my apologies to the OP.

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With further testing, I’ve found that any type of command that increases the brightness will cause the light to instantly jump to the desired level, while dimming commands will result in the dim that I would like.

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Thank you for the info.

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I apologize, I’m afraid this post makes it sound like it’s something different. Here’s the deal:

When I send any z-wave command that increases the brightness, whether it be “On”, 40%, or 99%, it instantly turns on.

When I send any z-wave command that decreases the brightness, it dims like it’s set to.

Does anyone experience this with their GE dimmers? If so, have you found a workaround.

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I have GE dimmers (LOWES) and this does not happen to mine. Are you talking only in a scene? Or from an app also? Which app?

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Any type of z wave “increase brightness” command will trigger an instant ramp. Does not matter if it is a scene or a manually triggered command.

I use UI5 and veramate.

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[quote=“jemboogie, post:18, topic:187292”]Any type of z wave “increase brightness” command will trigger an instant ramp. Does not matter if it is a scene or a manually triggered command.

I use UI5 and veramate.[/quote]

There is some revision changes in the firmware on the dimmers. I’m just guessing sine you have some that work and some that don’t and all the settings I know are fine, that the next option would be to trade out the older dimmers for new ones.

My GE switches came from lowes and they have a great return process. If I went a bought 3 new ones today and all three didn;t work tomorrow I can return them and get my money back. ;D