Denon AV Plugin and dependency with on/off switch

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Hello:
I am new to vera/MIOS. I have a Denon AVR3311 connected to an oulet controlled by an AN158 zwave switch. Is there any way to instruct the plugin not to try the connection with the Denon if the AN158 is off??? My problem is that when AN158 is off, the system is stuck while the plugin is trying to connect with the Denon…

Thanks in advance.
Octavio

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I’m also curious to know if it’s possible to get feedback from the denon regarding it’s power state as well. I’d like to connect my AV power strip surge protector to a z-wave wall receptacle and have the power cut to the power strip when the family is either sleeping or out of the house (It’s amazing how much those devices suck power just sitting idling). I think implementing a shutoff / power on schedule would be easy, but can you make conditional exceptions depending on the power status of a denon receiver?

For example if I have my receptacle programmed to power off my power strip at 11pm every night, but one night my wife and I are watching a movie later than 11pm. I’d hate to be in the middle of a movie and have everything shutdown on me. It would be pretty cool, if a condition could be placed, where it would first detect if the denon receiver is powered on, if so don’t power down the power strip until the denon receiver has been placed in stand by mode. Since all AV devices go through the receiver, it would be safe to say that if the receiver is off, no one is using the media room.

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[quote=“ubun2Junky, post:2, topic:174189”]I’m also curious to know if it’s possible to get feedback from the denon regarding it’s power state as well. I’d like to connect my AV power strip surge protector to a z-wave wall receptacle and have the power cut to the power strip when the family is either sleeping or out of the house (It’s amazing how much those devices suck power just sitting idling). I think implementing a shutoff / power on schedule would be easy, but can you make conditional exceptions depending on the power status of a denon receiver?

For example if I have my receptacle programmed to power off my power strip at 11pm every night, but one night my wife and I are watching a movie later than 11pm. I’d hate to be in the middle of a movie and have everything shutdown on me. It would be pretty cool, if a condition could be placed, where it would first detect if the denon receiver is powered on, if so don’t power down the power strip until the denon receiver has been placed in stand by mode. Since all AV devices go through the receiver, it would be safe to say that if the receiver is off, no one is using the media room.[/quote]

I’m sure that there is LuUp code that you could insert in the scene to disregard the OFF command if the power state of the AVR is set to TRUE. Is the AVR being controlled by IP or Serial?

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I have a Denon AVR-1913, which is controlled via IP. I’m thinking that I’m about to learn a new programming language! I’ll have to google LuUp, never heard of it!

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Here’s a link to an example another user sent me to help with my lighting triggers.

[url=http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,13436.msg100308.html#msg100308]http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,13436.msg100308.html#msg100308[/url]

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It does. Most of the AV Plugins also expose a “SwitchPower1” interface, which makes them [programatically] like a light switch. You can use this both to turn them on/off, as well as detect their current state.

In my setup, I explicitly dump the power to my AV components when I leave the house (detected through Alarm arming), through an explicitly enacted “Goodnight” scene, and also at 3:00am as a fallback/just-in-case.

Any motion in the Living room will trigger the power to the AV units.

The combination results in a lot of power savings. My Onkyo was chewing about 40-50w of standby power, not to mention the other components I power down in that stack.

Real room presence is actually quite hard to do. But this is “near enough” as it ensures that the stack is up/started by the time the remote control is being used.

PS: Luup is just MiOS UPnP extensions to the Lua programming language. There’s a ton of info on Lua, since it’s widely used.

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Awesome… I’m glad to hear that it’s something that can be done. I’m trying to justify the expense in purchasing all this equipment and I think the power savings will make up for a large chunk of it over time. I’ll look into Lua. Hopefully it’s intuitive and I can quickly pick it up. Thx Guessed and jenkinsjeff for your suggestions!

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[quote=“guessed, post:6, topic:174189”]The combination results in a lot of power savings. My Onkyo was chewing about 40-50w of standby power, not to mention the other components I power down in that stack.[/quote][quote=“tavius, post:1, topic:174189”]Hello:
I am new to vera/MIOS. I have a Denon AVR3311 connected to an oulet controlled by an AN158 zwave switch. Is there any way to instruct the plugin not to try the connection with the Denon if the AN158 is off???[/quote]

I understand with older systems why this would be desirable (for instance if you have an Onkyo drawing 40-50w of standby power), but the AVR3311 is supposed to only draw stand by power of 0.1 W. Are you sure you really need to have it on a switched outlet? Its been a while, but my 3808ci was supposed to draw <1W in standby and I think that was accurate when I checked with my meter.

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The problem is that in this power strip I have the Denon, TV and related stuff. If I shut off the power strip then the AV plugin that controls the Denon stucks. Maybe the solution is to put the Denon direct to power outlet if it draws only 0.1w… I will check it.

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It’s definitely worth measuring. For my amp, the specs show a low standby draw but once I switched on HDMI-CEC and the Ethernet port (for HA) that’s when the standby draw jumped.