How do you create the scene to be saved to a Vera Lite unit under Vera3?
Boy what a Nebie Question.
Thanks for the help
[quote=“Dale, post:1, topic:172300”]How do you create the scene to be saved to a Vera Lite unit under Vera3?
Boy what a Nebie Question.
Thanks for the help[/quote]
Hello and welcome Dale.
Can you please expand on your intent? It is a bit vague what you are trying to achieve. The more information you can provide, may asist in giving you the correct information and/or advise.
Example.
I have two units. One unit has a light switch and I want to be control that switch form another unit by a scene.
Sorry. I understand that each scene must run within the unit that the z-wave devices are paired. So Vera3 controls main floor. Veralite controls basement. If i create a scene to control z-wave devices in the basement|(VeraLight) Do you create and save the scene to VeraLite? from what i have read it sounds like the scene can not be on Vera3 as this scene will not activate devices on the VeraLite.
Hope this helps
Dale
[quote=“Dale, post:3, topic:172300”]Sorry. I understand that each scene must run within the unit that the z-wave devices are paired. So Vera3 controls main floor. Veralite controls basement.
If i create a scene to control z-wave devices in the basement|(VeraLight) Do you create and save the scene to VeraLite?
from what i have read it sounds like the scene can not be on Vera3 as this scene will not activate devices on the VeraLite.
Hope this helps
Dale[/quote]
Hi Dale,
There are two options:
Option 1. If the Vera(s) remain independant, you will need to create the scene on the individual Vera (with the paired device).
Option 2. Bridge Veras. See http://docs5.mios.com/doc.php?language=1&manual=1&platform=2&page=multiple_mios
My preferred option is option two. See recent comments http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,11432.msg82001.html#msg82001
Bridge Vera enable devices (not scenes) to be displayed on another Vera (provides an aggregate display).
So, you can have all your device from your Vera Lite displayed within your Vera 3 or reserve ot both ways.
Once the device is on that other Vera you can create a scene to control it. Note: There may be a slight delay.
So, a device or your Vera Lite can be controlled by a Scene on your Vera 3 if bridging is performed.
However, if you want the same scene to be idenpendant, you can create it on the original unit.
It also means you only have to use one of your two units to logon too.
It is not a Master/Secondary or Parent/Child relationship but a means of exposing controls accross from one system to another and simplify this over a distributed network.
Reference: http://docs5.mios.com/doc.php?language=1&manual=1&platform=2&page=multiple_mios
[quote=“Brientim, post:4, topic:172300”][quote=“Dale, post:3, topic:172300”]Sorry. I understand that each scene must run within the unit that the z-wave devices are paired. So Vera3 controls main floor. Veralite controls basement.
If i create a scene to control z-wave devices in the basement|(VeraLight) Do you create and save the scene to VeraLite?
from what i have read it sounds like the scene can not be on Vera3 as this scene will not activate devices on the VeraLite.
Hope this helps
Dale[/quote]
Hi Dale,
There are two options:
Option 1. If the Vera(s) remain independant, you will need to create the scene on the individual Vera (with the paired device).
Option 2. Bridge Veras. See http://docs5.mios.com/doc.php?language=1&manual=1&platform=2&page=multiple_mios
My preferred option is option two. See recent comments http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,11432.msg82001.html#msg82001
Bridge Vera enable devices (not scenes) to be displayed on another Vera (provides an aggregate display).
So, you can have all your device from your Vera Lite displayed within your Vera 3 or reserve ot both ways.
Once the device is on that other Vera you can create a scene to control it. Note: There may be a slight delay.
So, a device or your Vera Lite can be controlled by a Scene on your Vera 3 if bridging is performed.
However, if you want the same scene to be idenpendant, you can create it on the original unit.
It also means you only have to use one of your two units to logon too.
It is not a Master/Secondary or Parent/Child relationship but a means of exposing controls accross from one system to another and simplify this over a distributed network.
Reference: http://docs5.mios.com/doc.php?language=1&manual=1&platform=2&page=multiple_mios[/quote]
The only reason you need to create a scene on another Vera is if you are assigning the scene to a controller (like a Leviton zone controller) and then the scene needs to be assigned on the Vera unit where the controller is included. I have also heard from folks that some triggers dont work on the bridged device.
FYI, if you have multi units and you log into you account, albeit, on your local Vera or via mios.com, on the top left of the screen it will display the unit you are on. If you click on this, it will present you with a drop down list of your units and their IP address. Just use this to change between your different units.
The trigger failiure is one of the reasons for the requested information.
i understand the bridge i have several routers bridged in the home.
communication from one vera unit to the next is what i am working on as this will define the layout of the Vera Mesh
The selection in the top right hand of your screen to indicate unit currently signed in is great information.
i am thinking that if the scence is created and triggered on a selected vera unit and all devices and the trigger are paired to that unit the should not have trigger failiures.
Thank You
Dale
[quote=“Dale, post:7, topic:172300”]The trigger failiure is one of the reasons for the requested information.
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i am thinking that if the scence is created and triggered on a selected vera unit and all devices and the trigger are paired to that unit the should not have trigger failiures.[/quote]
But just to be clear, the scene can control all devices including bridged (upnp) ones
but can the scene control paired devices on more than one vera?
Dale
[quote=“Dale, post:7, topic:172300”]The trigger failiure is one of the reasons for the requested information.
i understand the bridge i have several routers bridged in the home.
communication from one vera unit to the next is what i am working on as this will define the layout of the Vera Mesh
I am thinking that if the scence is created and triggered on a selected vera unit and all devices and the trigger are paired to that unit the should not have trigger failiures.[/quote]
Dave,
You are correct with you thoughts and acknowledge if are experiencing reliability issues, that may determine how you configure your systems. In addition, reliability of scenes should not be a result of bridging and other mechanism would need to be in play and should be investigated when time permits.
A scene can be ran from one Vera to manage devices on another if they are bridged. As @aschwalb identified, this is normally as a result of assigning a scene to another external controller. Other condition may also be to offload the task to a unit with more available resources or to centralize the command interface. I would doubt the last two are required in normal operations; especially, given the lack of request for details to date. However, once an item is available on another Vera utilising bridging, it can be controller either manually or via a scene and the latency should be minimal.
Maybe if you give the condition of your scene and the problems you are encountering we could assist somewhat???
[quote=“Dale, post:9, topic:172300”]but can the scene control paired devices on more than one vera?
Dale[/quote]
Yes… which is the purpose of bridging…