Ceating scenes in ui4

Please excuse my ignorance up front as I am new to all this and trying to learn quickly.
I have a question about creating a scene that would consist of multiple commands.
For example:

Turn on a patio light at sunset every day then turn it off at 2300.
Or switch a thermostat to energy saver at 12pm then back to cool at 6pm…

Would something like this require two separate themes or just one with multiple commands?

The reason I ask is, in the scene setup, I don’t see an option to add a device/command such as this.

It appears that the link for docs.mios.com is for ui3? So I’m not sure if that helps me out.

Or just point me in the right direction…sorry for the elementary question…
Thanks

Try docs2.mios.com; however I don’t think Scene management has changed much since UI3 anyway and its still a bit lacking…

That being said you should be able to do this in a few ways.
Easy way: Multiple scenes and one timer.
One scene: Using the commands tab to set the light on, then with the other dropdown set the light to off after X amount of time. (in your case maybe 3 or 4 hours. This obviously varies with season if you have it fired by Sunset)
The other way is to use the command tab (set light on and leave it), then a timer to set it to sunset, and then the advanced tab to set the light to back off with toggle power or the set target (to 0 I think).

That answers my question…thanks