Carribean awning control (somfy motor)

I’ve only ever used it as you’ve stated - I.e using the central MY button as the stop button - there’s no reason not to use the remote in this way since it provides a dedicated stop function.
It’s the somfy dry contact interface which uses this method though - I.e. simultaneous contact closure across both the up and down terminals generates presumably the same output as the MY button does on the remote and leads to a blind stop mid position- there’s no separate ‘stop’ terminal which you interface to.

Yes i have seen it on the module, there are only 2 terminals. Thats why i thought i’ll try simulating it with the remote by pressing up and down at the same time, which i thought should reproduce that. Well once i know how to pair my awning to the dry contact (need the installers to come back and show me how to pair, i cannot see the pair button on the awning) i will program it how you’ve said, and see what happens. Hopefully it’ll work including the stop.
Thanks very muich for your help, much appreciated

hi - the pairing can all be done using your existing remote - you shouldn’t need to go near the actual awning.
There should be a small black button recessed onto the back of the remote? press this for a couple of seconds until the blind shunts to indicate it’s been selected, then press the programming button on the dry contact module - it should then programme the dry contact module to also operate the awning. The existing remote pairing won’t be affected.

Brilliant, thanks. will have a look when i get back home. That would make it a lotb easier

Just looking into how to wire up the Fibaro module (the 2x1.5kw module). Not 100% sure i understand how to wire this. I have

  1. N = neutral
  2. L = live
  3. I = input
  4. O1 = output 1
  5. O2 = output 2
  6. S2 = Terminal 2
  7. S1 = Terminal 2

so i wire up 1 and 2 to live and neutral, thats easy. Then the common of the Somfy to 3, the input. Now i am guessing ‘up’ i wire to either 4 or 5 ? then ‘down’ to the other output. So i leave 6 and 7 untouched, correct ?

Also trying to make sense of the Fibaro manual… this manual is rubbish. How did you include it into your vera ? Just pressing the service button after entering vera into include mode ? This part of the Fibaro manual does not make a lot of sense to me of what i need to do:

STEP 5 Add Double Relay Switch to the network by pushing three times key no. 1 or push-button B located inside the housing of the device. For toggle switch perform 3 position changes

yes - wiring is as you’ve stated. Doesn’t matter which Output you have as up or down - just name them appropriately in the Vera GUI.
If you also wanted to control the module via. buttons (e.g. momentary push buttons, you could optionally wire up 6 and 7 to two push switches for example (with the other side of the switches wired to 3) but they aren’t required if you’re just using it to control via. Vera).
To include it - yes - I just pushed the black recessed button after putting vera in include mode.
The references to pushing buttons three times, or flipping toggle switches three positions are others ways of doing this, if you’ve wired switches to the S1/S2 terminals - I’ve never used this method though, and have always just done it by pushing the black button prior to fixing it all behind the faceplate. I guess the other methods are useful if you’ve screwed everything in behind a face plate prior to including it!

I am extremely pleased. Wired up everything as per your description, created the scene for the awning stop, copied your luup code, and its working great !!! The only thing not working:

Auto off is a function of the fibaro units - configured via the ‘device options’ tab in vera for the relay channels.
I added parameters 4 and 5 as 1byte Dec’s, both with a value of 5 - means they turn off after 0.5s

I tried, and i always got an error about device not configured. So i deleted parameters 4 and 5 from my device settings, error gone, and it works. So it looks as if that is not necessarily needed

Thanks again

;D

Glad it worked ok…
re. the error you got - I think this happens when you try and configure the parameters against the wrong switch element; As you know - the Fibaro device comes up as two switches in Vera - I think you can only configure the parameters against what Vera decides is the master switch for the unit (think this is the one with the lower device no. - I’d just try alternating the one you used and configure only on the other one to see if it works). Sounds like it’s maybe not technically required though - I never got round to testing it. I did wonder if it was better not having the auto turn off anyway since I guess this way you can tell whether it’s up or down when away from the house just by looking at the switch status. On the other hand though, it would mean if you’d overridden the position with the normal somfy remote, you’d maybe have to e.g. trigger one switch then the other on Vera before you could move the blind (e.g. vera think’s it’s down, but you manually move it up on the remote - presumably you’d have to do an up then down trigger on vera to move it in your current setup?).

Jonathan

I do not use the somfy remote since i have installed the dry contact as i have it all on my ipad now, but i’ll try to see if that is the case. I did put the parameters in both switches, so that explains the error. But on my system i cannot see what state the awning is, All the switches are always off. If i move the awning, the switch goes on for a moment while the awning is moving in or out, but after it stopped they are off again. It would be nice though if i could see the state of the awning by looking at the state of the switches

sounds like you’ve effectively configured the auto-off then just as I have… you’ll have the error due to configuring it on both the primary and secondary switches.
Since you’re just using Vera, you could quite easily get a display of up/down by triggering a second virtual switch to be turned on/off in the Luup code for the fibaro units… you’d have to display an additional switch on your GUI though. I’m using Homewave on the iphone, and this allows you to set the on/off text which is displayed against a switch really easily, so you could easily get an up/down indiciator.