Anyone using a NEVO Q50 with Vera?

I’m sorry but I don’t follow. I don’t know how you might have concluded that you could control Nevo Connect through the RS232. Nevo can talk to Nevo Connect through the RF or IP. You have to keep in mind that Nevo and Nevo Connect are by themselves a total solution. When planning a systems with both, certain assumptions have to be taken into consideration. Nevo’s strength is in macros for A/V, lighting and couple of other HA applications. It is stable if designed and implemented correctly. Vera however is an unknown entity at this point since the product is reaching into a different area on daily basis. Certain Scenes/Macros just work better with Nevo while some things work better through Vera. An example is Z-Wave enabled door locks. A scenario that involves taking a picture or shooting a short video when the door is opened is a better application for Vera than it is for Nevo. But if you want to change the lighting in the room when the Paus button is pressed on the remote, then Nevo is the way to go.
Architecturally, Nevo is similar to every remote control system that is out there. Notice I said Control System and not remote. Remote is just one component. That interface could be a hard wired or a wireless device, nevertheless they are Control Systems. That is how they are marketed and how we sell them. This is true with AMX, Crestron, Pronto, RTI, and number of others. The RS232 port on Nevo Connect functions the same exact way as in other professional grade control systems. These systems will always consist of at least two basic components. A user interface device (A remote, touch panel etc), and a device interface (Controller that interfaces with devices that are to be controlled). The first might have hard/soft buttons or combination of both as in the case of Nevo. The Controller might have one or more IR, R232, voltage sensor, Relay or combination of two or more of these interfaces. The controllers cost from a couple hundred to few thousand dollars depending on brand and number of ports (Dictated by the complexity of the system). What is unique about Nevo Connect is the universal interface (3.5 mm jack) with external adapters. That said, you’d have purchase cable assemblies IR emitters, RS232 adapters, video sensors and so on regardless of brand. As for variable status flags and why they started supporting them recently is because the product is maturing with time and these features become available as they are developed. They just could not support them before which has nothing to do with accessories you are referring to. There are only ten part numbers in the entire Nevo product line which includes four remotes, Nevo Link, Nevo Connect, and four cable assemblies/Adapters.
That said, you’d be amazed as to how many times you can point out to a user that if something happens just press help, and how many support calls you’ll receive from that same person, which is why you’ll be hard pressed to find a professional A/V installation with a Harmony or similar product.

[quote=“woodsby, post:20, topic:166021”]Oh, beware buying Nevo products on eBay. And I recognize the difference between widgets and serial support, but my comment holds true, you cannot control Nevo through serial… You can only control other devices from nevo using serial. So, essentially, the two-way is only solicited two-way. Glad I made up my own serial cable before spending $70 to discover that.
And, you are right, nevo and harmony/monster are apples and oranges, but let’s be honest here, the only apparent reason they waited so long to allow variables/status flags was to push their misc accessories. And again, you are right, there is no better way to prove the TV is on than through serial or power monitor, but I think it’s only fair to fully explain the benefits, weaknesses and costs. Some people can live with pressing a help button if it saves them hundreds of dollars. Especially since most of us have only one remote in the room, and probably would be looking to hide the av equipment anyway. I have both a harmony and a nevo in my family room controlling the same equipment and they have passed the girlfriend test… But it helps having discrete power codes, which I guess mostly prevents us from ever having to press the help button anyway.

Edit: but hey, I just remembered others are struggling with getting the h890pro/monster remotes working with UI4 and/or Vera 2… I’ll check it out as soon as I have time and post on the respective thread. I’ll similarly confirm the same with Nevo.[/quote]

Its funny how defensive nevo people get.
I am currently working on a lighting control system for a customer. Lutron has come in and designed this crazy $70,000 system that literally turns the lights on when the space is occupied, dims the lights down when daylight is bright enough and turns the corridor lights on during daytime hours. They came back and asked me for another $3K the other day, so I decided to take a closer look at their BOM and realized I could cut out about $15K by replacing unnecessarily complex hardware with some simple paralleling of the circuits and a cheap time clock. Had the customer not insisted on Lutron, and had I evaluated early on, we could have cut half their price. The moral of my story is Keep it Simple Stupid.
Read what the original poster needs and I don’t see how an overpriced system helps him here. You also mentioned turning on the lights when someone hits pause - this is possible on Vera, FYI - and that configuration costs less than the nevo setup.
Again, I like my Nevo remote, although zwave hopping isn’t nearly as reliable as my other remotes or veras. I’m just saying it’s not the end all remote.

Funny enough, Lutron people are defensive too.

I could care less whether you know the difference between a shovel and a scalpel. You can argue your point all day long but those in the business know better. Not sure what you mean by “Nevo People”, we might sell a handful of Nevo in an entire year. It is by no means the end all for anything other than residential project with limited budget. As for the original intent of the post, I suggest you read the original question as it was posted. The question had to do with Nevo Q50 and Vera and A/V control, nothing to do Harmony. I realize that Logitech is very happy that people like yourself believe that Harmony is the “it” product, but that does not make it so.

I could use some help here to…

I have two Nevo Q50’s, one was setup as a primary controller on the Nevo network, the second remote was a secondary on the same Nevo network.

I successfully added the second remote to my veralite by “joining existing network”. However, it could not then find my Nevo Connect. It says to add the Nevo Connect with the primary remote. How are you to accomplish that? Are you to also add the Nevo Connect to the Vera as well?

My current work around was to remove the nevo connect from the secondary controller’s ecosystem but leave it in the ecosystem for the primary controller. This works, I can controller my Zwave devices with the secondary remote as well as all my IR devices. I assume the secondary remote is still functioning with the primary Nevo remotes Nevo Connect somehow? I tried to add the Nevo Connect to the secondary controller in Nevo Studio. However when I do that, the remote still cannot find the Nevo connect.

Does anyone recall how they added the Nevo Connect to get it to work? I’d like to move the primary Nevo Q50 over to my Vera network along with the Nevo Connect.
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