aeotec Heavy duty smart switch

I just installed the aeotec heavy duty smart switch to a water heater. It did not say in the manual but is it necessary to have a neutral?

I have successfully added it to the network, but I can’t seem to toggle the state or receive watts. I can hit the on button and it looks like it turns on, however I don’t hear a click (maybe there is not one) and after a few minutes it says it is off (also if I poll it, it will say it is off). Does any one have experience with these?

On a side note, the unit makes a slight hum. You have to be maybe two feet away to hear it. I don’t know if this is normal.

[quote=“victorb17, post:1, topic:183451”]I just installed the aeotec heavy duty smart switch to a water heater. It did not say in the manual but is it necessary to have a neutral?

I have successfully added it to the network, but I can’t seem to toggle the state or receive watts. I can hit the on button and it looks like it turns on, however I don’t hear a click (maybe there is not one) and after a few minutes it says it is off (also if I poll it, it will say it is off). Does any one have experience with these?

On a side note, the unit makes a slight hum. You have to be maybe two feet away to hear it. I don’t know if this is normal.[/quote]

I believe you have to have the neutral in these, especially to detect usage. It measures the electricity going in the hot and coming out the common to determine how much is being used. Or at least that is how I believe it works :slight_smile:

I don’t have the heavy duty versions (Do you have a link to it?) but none of mine hum.

Also, can you post a picture of how you have it wired?

Ok, I found out that they cannot be controlled by vera. At least not now apparently. It is monitor only. If I switch it on and off at the switch it updates in vera. I also can see the wattage update.

I do not have a neutral hooked up on either unit and it is reporting very accurate wattage. I have asked aeotec if there is a work around for the control, since this is the main reason I purchased this. :cry:

Is there an incompatability between Vera and the Aeotec (e.g. 5th Gen device) or just a device file needs to be created by MCV?

It does appear that the device should have a Neutral connection for proper operation.

I too purchased one… a little too soon apparently. Unable to get the device to properly configure. I get “Failed at: getting the version”. However one time I was able to get it to hang up on the portion where it is getting or setting secure classes. At that point, I was able to reliably toggle it on and off from Ui5. Then not realizing my luck, I tried to fix it by deleting it and now it just does mostly nothing but look cool mounted on my wall. (was intended to control hot water heater)

Hi,

We recently finished testing this device and came up with a couple of ways of getting it working in VERA UI5.

More details at http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-89

Hope that helps!

Martyn @ Vesternet

Great Link!

Being the impatient person I guess I am, I gave up on trying to obtain the Beta version 1.5.672 the Versternet bulletin states is required. I am using 1.5.622 and found that I was able to get around the devices failure to obtain version error by, letting it error out then manually adding the version number of my GE/Jasco Light switch “6,3,40,3,25”. That seems to get the device properly added to the UI. From there the Versternet directions for the simple toggle works great. I used a Virtual Switch and three scenes to make the Appliance switch work and the proper on off icon work as well.

Scene 1 Water Heater Virtual Switch Automation
Just two Triggers with the Luup events
tON is as follows luup.call_action(‘urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1’,‘SendData’,{Node=‘28’,Data=‘37 1 255’},1)
tOFF is as follows luup.call_action(‘urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1’,‘SendData’,{Node=‘28’,Data=‘37 1 0’},1)

Scene 2 Water Heater On
The device is the virtual switch set to ON
The trigger is the actual Appliance Module being set to device turned on

Scene 3 Water Heater Off
The device is also the virtual switch but set to OFF
The trigger is again the actual Appliance Module being set to device turned off

So far this works wonderfully, thank you Versternet!!!

Ok so I am able to control the device from the devices tab in UI7 now. I don’t know why its working but this is what I did. I turned Off automatically config and under advanced I added 99,21074,13616 under manufacturerID. Can someone else try this and see if it works for them? This is the manufacturerID from my GE electrical outlets. I am not sure if this did it or something else but might be worth trying. I will dig more into it tomorrow when I have time.

Does anyone know how to get temp and power readings working? I have UI7 and don’t see any of these showing up.

New firmware update is now working with this switch. Everything configs and seems to work correctly

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