I worked with a (sometimes) electrician to get my switches installed. My house has a ton of 3-way switch setups. He said that if the power and lead to the load (lamp) are not in the same box the switch will not work. I’ve done some research on the web and what I’ve found says that it will work, but you have to look at the wiring and forget what you know as an electrician.
What I’m looking for is:
Is this possible?
How?
Basic configuration is power goes to box 1 (always hot) Wiring to light is from box 2. It is setup like this in every location in my house where there are 3 way lights. If it isn’t possible I save a bunch on switches, but my goal of automating all of my lights falls short.
Be careful of the wiring diagrams for the microswitch claiming that you can use live wires on the ‘wall switch’ terminals. You cannot put line voltage onto the microswitch ‘wall switch’ terminals.
I don’t think there is anyway to get these to work with a 3-way circuit without adding a 4th traveler. I ended up buying some Enerwave ZWN-RSM2 that did the trick without adding a 4th traveler.
[quote=“sely, post:2, topic:185553”]Be careful of the wiring diagrams for the microswitch claiming that you can use live wires on the ‘wall switch’ terminals. You cannot put line voltage onto the microswitch ‘wall switch’ terminals.
I don’t think there is anyway to get these to work with a 3-way circuit without adding a 4th traveler. I ended up buying some Enerwave ZWN-RSM2 that did the trick without adding a 4th traveler.[/quote]
I have a couple of the ZWN-RSM2s as well, but all currently on regular switches (two in one gang). Is there a wiring diagram for this where power is in one box and load is on the other?
[quote=“mjbok, post:3, topic:185553”][quote=“sely, post:2, topic:185553”]Be careful of the wiring diagrams for the microswitch claiming that you can use live wires on the ‘wall switch’ terminals. You cannot put line voltage onto the microswitch ‘wall switch’ terminals.
I don’t think there is anyway to get these to work with a 3-way circuit without adding a 4th traveler. I ended up buying some Enerwave ZWN-RSM2 that did the trick without adding a 4th traveler.[/quote]
I have a couple of the ZWN-RSM2s as well, but all currently on regular switches (two in one gang). Is there a wiring diagram for this where power is in one box and load is on the other?[/quote]
You need to re purpose wires to complete the task. And a wiring diagram of what you have would be a good start if we are going to determine if its possible.
Wanted instance status without polling, seems like keeping traffic at minimum on the network and VeraLite would be helpful in the long run.
House is full of toggles and I am too anal to have different types and too lazy to change them all to Decora. Trust me, it’s difficult to be anal and lazy.
If I sell the house, I want to take my modules with me and it takes about 5 minutes to pull them out.
Attached is a diagram how I did the wiring. I also wrote a scene to have AUX 2 turn on/off LOAD 1. (when aux 2 changes state, if load 1 is off turn it on and visa-versa.)
[quote=“sely, post:5, topic:185553”]I went with in-box modules and not 3-way because:
I am a newbie and know not what I do.
Wanted instance status without polling, seems like keeping traffic at minimum on the network and VeraLite would be helpful in the long run.
House is full of toggles and I am too anal to have different types and too lazy to change them all to Decora. Trust me, it’s difficult to be anal and lazy.
If I sell the house, I want to take my modules with me and it takes about 5 minutes to pull them out.
Attached is a diagram how I did the wiring. I also wrote a scene to have AUX 2 turn on/off LOAD 1. (when aux 2 changes state, if load 1 is off turn it on and visa-versa.)[/quote]
I thought you were not supposed to run high voltage to the aux wires. And this is also a double switch controlling only 1 load?
I wouldn’t wire per " [Section 2] Micro Switch Wiring Schematics with Live Wires on the External Switch" of your link.
I bought 10 of the DSC26103-ZWUS in early December. When I installed one of them per Section 2 it quite working. When I wrote the vendor “Smartest House” he responded with:
“This is the Aeon Labs ? these guys do evrything very sloooowly…( as all people in China Smile ). So, they have been fixed this and some more issues for about 6 months ? still no effect. This one microswitch which doesn?t work with external switch was damaged by wiring with line voltage ( according to diagram they provided you ! ). Will go back to the factory in this case…”
Smartest House gave me a refund, and I learned a valuable lesson. Other than that issue the switches have worked great, just don’t put 120 on the switch inputs. If you have done so with good results, please let me know, I had the latest generation and it didn’t work for me.
I just happened to stumble upon this thread… same just happened to me. I wired a DSC26103 (G2) according to the 3-way instructions in the box, and burned it up. I’m going through the same process with “Smartest House” as you did.
It’s interesting to me that the diagram in the box ([url=http://www.lorenzhd.com/thesmartesthouse/downloads/MicroSwitch26103.pdf]http://www.lorenzhd.com/thesmartesthouse/downloads/MicroSwitch26103.pdf[/url]) actually has the 3-way switches reversed from the diagram on the aeon website link in the 2nd previous post.
It’s not clear to me if anyone has gotten these switches to work with the 3-way live wire configuration, and if so, which of the 2 configurations was used? I’d be interested to hear.
Hi there,
this diagram with hot wire connected to low voltage terminal is incorrect now.
All new DSC26103 come from factory are not able to work in such configuration ( while momentary lack of 110V triggered microswitch ).
Certainly you can use wiring with two 3-way switches hooked up with low voltage terminals only.
I’m having trouble in a 3-way circuit because both switches have 2 blacks (line,load), a red (traveler) and a ground. I have access to white (neutral) from withing the box. I seem to have too many wires and hopefully that’s a good sign.
How do I wire the microswitch?
[quote=“mooneych, post:12, topic:185553”]I’m having trouble in a 3-way circuit because both switches have 2 blacks (line,load), a red (traveler) and a ground. I have access to white (neutral) from withing the box. I seem to have too many wires and hopefully that’s a good sign.
How do I wire the microswitch?[/quote]
What the wires are and where they go is the information you need (or us as well to help) colors don’t mean enough especially when you have two of the same.
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